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Topic # 85051 12-Jun-2011 18:13
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Edit: (note topic changed after some figuring out) original topic posted WAS: "iPhone 4 Data roaming Fail"
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I know this has been discussed before but i'd just like to get some opinion on how to rectify this in the future:

Roaming in NZ with VFNZ. Optus Australia Sim with a small amount of prepaid balance so no big deal BUT -


"social network" updates every 45s and I get charged AUD$6.60 per tick. (As i said no big deal as by topping up $30 AUD i get $400 worth of credit). i only have Facebook. no twitter. no MSN etc

the thing is I am pretty (98%) sure we were NOT on 3g, NOT on data, and definitely NOT on data roaming because data was off. the 2% uncertainty is that the charges were billed a few days after i switched to a 2d sim and only looked at the charges 10 days later (old age = senile). the other thing was we did turn on data roaming for a couple of hours TWICE to use GPS aka google maps. but i'm pretty sure one of the times we used google maps ie turn on 3g and data and data roaming was 3 hours AFTER the period of madness in the PIC.

how do you stop this madness next time? apart from NOT roaming?

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  Reply # 480389 12-Jun-2011 18:33
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I'm confused.
If you have an Optus sim in Australia, then you are not roaming.


(oh, and if you are getting charged $6.60AUD every time facebook updates then it isn't really '$400 of value', it is a sham.)

ETA: never mind, misread your email, I see you are roamng in NZ, not OZ. whoops.



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  Reply # 480448 12-Jun-2011 21:57
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the main reason i posted is because i recall there were other iphone 4 people "caught out" by data roaming charges, but i'm just wondering if iphone 4 has an unpreventable data roaming problem?

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/search.asp?cx=partner-pub-3841542980804279%3A2ieo2qs2lgy&cof=FORID%3A10&ie...

(note looking closely at it - $6.60 per 60Kb is exactly what Optus charges for data roaming but my point is i don't recall enabling data roaming ... anyone encountered data charged while data turned off on iphone 4 as per those threads in the search link)

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  Reply # 480449 12-Jun-2011 22:04
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joker97: the main reason i posted is because i recall there were other iphone 4 people "caught out" by data roaming charges, but i'm just wondering if iphone 4 has an unpreventable data roaming problem?

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/search.asp?cx=partner-pub-3841542980804279%3A2ieo2qs2lgy&cof=FORID%3A10&ie...

(note looking closely at it - $6.60 per 60Kb is exactly what Optus charges for data roaming but my point is i don't recall enabling data roaming ... anyone encountered data charged while data turned off on iphone 4 as per those threads in the search link)


Yes I have read about this before!

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  Reply # 480474 12-Jun-2011 23:51
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Was "Cellular Data" enabled? (regardless of what "Data Roaming" was set to)




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  Reply # 480511 13-Jun-2011 08:35
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No of course not! I didn't even enable 3G at that time that I was billed. I might call Optus and see what they say

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  Reply # 480515 13-Jun-2011 08:43
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joker97: No of course not! I didn't even enable 3G at that time that I was billed. I might call Optus and see what they say


You don't need 3G enabled. Packet data can go over the 2G / GPRS network,

A lot people think if they disable 3G on the iPhone this will stop packet data services which is not the case at all

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  Reply # 480603 13-Jun-2011 12:56
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johnr: You don't need 3G enabled. Packet data can go over the 2G / GPRS network,

A lot people think if they disable 3G on the iPhone this will stop packet data services which is not the case at all

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yeah i know ... but i thought data consumption would be a lot slower should the restriction fail ... anyway i have figured it all out ...


1) the times listed were AUSTRALIAN time.
2) that means in NZ time when we accessed google maps (2 hours later than Oz time) the data got turned on. Optus confirmed that the first bill item which failed to show was consistent with google map use. unfortunately my wife (yeah always never the guy!) didn't turn off data after finding the locality of our destination - i was driving. 10 mins later i asked her if she turned off the data. she said nope. i said QUICK TURN IT OFF NOW!!! but was too late ...


3) which means ... turn off individual program auto check when data roaming!


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  Reply # 480604 13-Jun-2011 12:58
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(note probably if she had turned off data straightaway it was too late anyway, looking by the way FB was consuming money by the seconds! ... thanks to JohnR's red 3G waves)



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Reply # 480606 13-Jun-2011 12:59
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should change topic to Facebook data roaming fail

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Reply # 480611 13-Jun-2011 13:16
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joker97: (note probably if she had turned off data straightaway it was too late anyway, looking by the way FB was consuming money by the seconds! ... thanks to JohnR's red 3G waves)


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  Reply # 480621 13-Jun-2011 13:43
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So more like wife fail then? :P




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  Reply # 480639 13-Jun-2011 14:33
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Well if Data got used by the seconds I don't know if it would have made any difference

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