Bad ESN ebay Phones can work of VF NZ?

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TheAddict

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# 99791 27-Mar-2012 16:00

Hi Guys,

i know there was a thread a few months back about the Bad ESN Verizon iPhones on ebay and if you could unlock them.. but that didnt really answer the question i have,.. as Verizon is a CDMA network.. if you were to buy a iPhone off ebay and get it over here to use on the Vodafone NZ network does that mean it would work? from what i understand Verizon lock the ESN for their CDMA network.. GSM uses the IMEI number correct? more specificly how does the "lock off / activation" process work? i.e. if you set your phone to factory defaults .. does a bad ESN have Anything todo with the itunes activation? if the phone is working when you get it from the US.. could you plug a VF sim into it and it would "just work" ?

johnr

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# 600809 27-Mar-2012 16:08

Why bother?

Just get a iPhone you know that is going to work and not give you a bad headache when you have issues

John

Behodar

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# 600812 27-Mar-2012 16:13

By default, all Verizon phones are locked to Verizon so it'll reject the NZ SIM unless it's already been unlocked. If it has a bad ESN then Verizon won't unlock it.

TheAddict

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# 600822 27-Mar-2012 16:22

johnr: Why bother?

Just get a iPhone you know that is going to work and not give you a bad headache when you have issues

John

Behodar: By default, all Verizon phones are locked to Verizon so it'll reject the NZ SIM unless it's already been unlocked. If it has a bad ESN then Verizon won't unlock it.

Hi Guys, thanks for the quick replys.. So yes after a little more research.. Verizon iPhone 4's have NO GSM modem or slot for a SIM card, it most likey wont work even with XT's WCDMA network either.. it HAS to be unlocked by Verizon.. so yes in reply to you John.. i agree.. just buy a apple NZ carrier unlocked version.. and avoid a mountain of headaches!

johnr

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# 600828 27-Mar-2012 16:29

TheAddict:
johnr: Why bother?

Just get a iPhone you know that is going to work and not give you a bad headache when you have issues

John

Behodar: By default, all Verizon phones are locked to Verizon so it'll reject the NZ SIM unless it's already been unlocked. If it has a bad ESN then Verizon won't unlock it.

Hi Guys, thanks for the quick replys.. So yes after a little more research.. Verizon iPhone 4's have NO GSM modem or slot for a SIM card, it most likey wont work even with XT's WCDMA network either.. it HAS to be unlocked by Verizon.. so yes in reply to you John.. i agree.. just buy a apple NZ carrier unlocked version.. and avoid a mountain of headaches!

Glad you saw the light

plambrechtsen

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# 600829 27-Mar-2012 16:32

TheAddict:
johnr: Why bother?

Just get a iPhone you know that is going to work and not give you a bad headache when you have issues

John

Behodar: By default, all Verizon phones are locked to Verizon so it'll reject the NZ SIM unless it's already been unlocked. If it has a bad ESN then Verizon won't unlock it.

Hi Guys, thanks for the quick replys.. So yes after a little more research.. Verizon iPhone 4's have NO GSM modem or slot for a SIM card, it most likey wont work even with XT's WCDMA network either.. it HAS to be unlocked by Verizon.. so yes in reply to you John.. i agree.. just buy a apple NZ carrier unlocked version.. and avoid a mountain of headaches!

The Verizon CDMA iPhone cannot be provisioned to the Telecom CDMA network either (well it may work roaming, but certainly not as a local connection). And the Telecom CDMA network is shutting down shortly.

Sounds like an over-priced iPod Touch to me :)

So.. As John rightfully said only go for a iPhone either purchased from Telecom/Vodafone or directly from Apple since then it won't be sim-locked and will work on either network.

TheAddict

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# 600835 27-Mar-2012 16:52

Hey.. cant knock me for trying hehe.. the old 2nd gen version is getting too close to being thrown at the ground trying to load a page too often.. looks like ill have to sell my soul again now :-P