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Aaroona

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#107437 11-Aug-2012 18:43
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Hi all,

Been pricing these up, and can't justify 430-460 odd for a kit of 2 units + 2x10meter shielded cables.

So looking for a couple of used units if possible.

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  #671161 11-Aug-2012 20:28
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Why are you bothering with shielded cable? It's not going to give any benefit unless you're in a high thunderstorm area.




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  #671163 11-Aug-2012 20:30
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sbiddle: Why are you bothering with shielded cable? It's not going to give any benefit unless you're in a high thunderstorm area.



Only going with it, cause I was told to :P I was thinking the same thing, but because it's running POE I thought I better not question it!


EDIT: Oh plus, thats what they were offering in the kit on gowifi.co.nz

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  #671165 11-Aug-2012 20:33
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I've installed a couple of hundred of these now and never had an issue.



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  #671166 11-Aug-2012 20:34
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sbiddle: I've installed a couple of hundred of these now and never had an issue.


Good to know - so just standard Cat5/e will be fine?

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  #671168 11-Aug-2012 20:34
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Yip, but clearly you need outdoor rated cat5e if the radio will be outdoors.

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  #671169 11-Aug-2012 20:35
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sbiddle: Yip, but clearly you need outdoor rated cat5e if the radio will be outdoors.


Of course- yeah it will just be outside the window (window mounted) or at least thats the plan... Good to know. Thanks!

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  #671171 11-Aug-2012 20:45
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Aaroona: Hi all,

Been pricing these up, and can't justify 430-460 odd for a kit of 2 units + 2x10meter shielded cables.

So looking for a couple of used units if possible.


How are are you going?  Do you actually need ns rather than loco's?

I also agree with Steve, I've got them on shielded and unshielded and they work ok.






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  #671172 11-Aug-2012 20:47
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sbiddle: Yip, but clearly you need outdoor rated cat5e if the radio will be outdoors.

I just put mine inside some 15mm Alkathene (up on an overhead line), and it survived 8 years without any problems.  Now recycled into other uses underneath the house and it still works fine @ 100Mbps.





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  #671182 11-Aug-2012 21:06
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DonGould:
Aaroona: Hi all,

Been pricing these up, and can't justify 430-460 odd for a kit of 2 units + 2x10meter shielded cables.

So looking for a couple of used units if possible.


How are are you going?  Do you actually need ns rather than loco's?

I also agree with Steve, I've got them on shielded and unshielded and they work ok.




Hey mate - mate is adamant about the N ones, he simply wants the fastest speed possible (which I kind of have to agree with). That would probably be the only reason.


Will have to have a look for some outdoor rated cable..!

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  #671188 11-Aug-2012 21:20
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Aaroona:  Hey mate - mate is adamant about the N ones, he simply wants the fastest speed possible (which I kind of have to agree with). That would probably be the only reason.


Will have to have a look for some outdoor rated cable..!


I've got a set of the loco's doing 180mbit.  The limiting factor is the 100mbit interface.

The issue is the range.  My loco's are running 600m.  I've got NSM5's running a couple of km.  The NS is higher power OP and the gain on the antenna is higher.  Again, the limiting factor is the 100mbit interface on them.

How much cable are you actually needing and are you needing the plugs on it or are you going to do that yourself?






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  #671190 11-Aug-2012 21:26
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DonGould:
Aaroona:  Hey mate - mate is adamant about the N ones, he simply wants the fastest speed possible (which I kind of have to agree with). That would probably be the only reason.


Will have to have a look for some outdoor rated cable..!


I've got a set of the loco's doing 180mbit.  The limiting factor is the 100mbit interface.

The issue is the range.  My loco's are running 600m.  I've got NSM5's running a couple of km.  The NS is higher power OP and the gain on the antenna is higher.  Again, the limiting factor is the 100mbit interface on them.

How much cable are you actually needing and are you needing the plugs on it or are you going to do that yourself?





Ahh yes, that was the other issue - Power. You can look here at my Active thread for details http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=66&topicid=106945


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ut basically, at my friends end we are probably looking at 5M.

My end we're probably talking about 5M again to ensure I can move it later if required. 


The distance I'm looking at is approx. 600M, but also isn't completely LOS. (pretty near though)

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  #671198 11-Aug-2012 21:43
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ya, ok now I'm getting scared about how limited this LOS isn't. What's in the way? Trees? Buildings?

I will agree the NS will punch though more than the loco.

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  #671199 11-Aug-2012 21:47
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DonGould: ya, ok now I'm getting scared about how limited this LOS isn't. What's in the way? Trees? Buildings?

I will agree the NS will punch though more than the loco.

D


A little bit of a hill/trees.

Standing on the deck where we would be mounting the unit at my mates, I can see our apartments roof (3 storey's high). So I don't think it'll be too bad.

Put it this way, half watt UHF radios can make the distance without much issue. (probably not the best comparison, but unfortunately I've got no way to test to see if it'll work)

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  #671201 11-Aug-2012 21:55
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Aaroona: A little bit of a hill/trees.

Standing on the deck where we would be mounting the unit at my mates, I can see our apartments roof (3 storey's high). So I don't think it'll be too bad.

Put it this way, half watt UHF radios can make the distance without much issue. (probably not the best comparison, but unfortunately I've got no way to test to see if it'll work)


Ya the UHF radio can't be compared at all.  It's way to low freq.

If you can see the roof then you know where you're going to be putting these units... on the deck and roof.

I've got radios up trees to get line of site.






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  #671205 11-Aug-2012 21:58
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DonGould:
Aaroona: A little bit of a hill/trees.

Standing on the deck where we would be mounting the unit at my mates, I can see our apartments roof (3 storey's high). So I don't think it'll be too bad.

Put it this way, half watt UHF radios can make the distance without much issue. (probably not the best comparison, but unfortunately I've got no way to test to see if it'll work)


Ya the UHF radio can't be compared at all.  It's way to low freq.

If you can see the roof then you know where you're going to be putting these units... on the deck and roof.

I've got radios up trees to get line of site.




Yeah, didnt think so. 
So I can see the roof of my place, but because its rented (and getting on the roof is obviously gonna be difficult for starters, and getting approval from the landlord more so) I can't put it on the roof.

So I was thinking on the window about 4-5M down would be okay. Guess I wont know till I get a unit here to test.

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