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Topic # 191808 17-Feb-2016 10:05
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I'm after a Fibaro Home Center 2 or Lite, anyone have one they no longer want or know where you can buy them in NZ?

 

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  Reply # 1493697 17-Feb-2016 10:05
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  Reply # 1493729 17-Feb-2016 10:18
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There is a Fibaro office and distributor in NZ - I actually chatted with them at CES and the guy who's running things in NZ had a good look at their products. I have the details at home if you can't locate them.

 

 




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  Reply # 1493742 17-Feb-2016 10:25
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Was hoping for an online store thing, where I could just order it and pay, couldnt find anything like that.  Lots of "download pdf brochure", but thats so annoying :)

 

Talked to Ben from smartthingsnz.co.nz but he know longer stocks them.


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  Reply # 1493794 17-Feb-2016 11:18
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I was driving past and had a look at the ili OneTouch Smart Home showroom off Constellation, they look to stock them.




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  Reply # 1493797 17-Feb-2016 11:20
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Blanch:

 

I was driving past and had a look at the ili OneTouch Smart Home showroom off Constellation, they look to stock them.

 

 

 

 

excellent! they have an online store :)

 

 

 

I emailed everyone mentioned on the fibaro website, but none of the 10 or so they have listed in NZ actually have an online store (so, so, so stupid).


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  Reply # 1493798 17-Feb-2016 11:22
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reven:

 

I emailed everyone mentioned on the fibaro website, but none of the 10 or so they have listed in NZ actually have an online store (so, so, so stupid).

 

 

Bet you those are the same retailers that are complaining when people go off and buy things online too..





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  Reply # 1493821 17-Feb-2016 11:23
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lol, probably, I was just going to buy from z-wave.com.au and pay the import GST :)


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  Reply # 1493826 17-Feb-2016 11:30
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Yeah sorry about that team - we welcomed our first baby a month ago and time is at a premium now. I just can't continue to work full time, raise a child, continue with my own tinkering :), AND run an online business!




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  Reply # 1493829 17-Feb-2016 11:32
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SumnerBoy:

 

Yeah sorry about that team - we welcomed our first baby a month ago and time is at a premium now. I just can't continue to work full time, raise a child, continue with my own tinkering :), AND run an online business!

 

 

 

 

congrats :)   now quick have a closing down sale with every 90% off :P


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  Reply # 1493834 17-Feb-2016 11:35
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Thanks!

 

Re. the 90% sale, afraid not, that is the other thing with having a baby - it ain't cheap!

 

I have sold all my remaining stock to the guys at Active Automation who are great to deal with and have a much broader range of products.

 

Would definitely recommend them as your alternative Z-Wave supplier, although I don't think they are stocking/selling the Fibaro controllers yet.

 

http://activeautomation.co.nz/

 

 




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  Reply # 1493836 17-Feb-2016 11:38
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Thanks!

 

Re. the 90% sale, afraid not, that is the other thing with having a baby - it ain't cheap!

 

I have sold all my remaining stock to the guys at Active Automation who are great to deal with and have a much broader range of products.

 

Would definitely recommend them as your alternative Z-Wave supplier, although I don't think they are stocking/selling the Fibaro controllers yet.

 

http://activeautomation.co.nz/

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bugger :)  Yeah I stumbled upon them while googling for a nz supplier, but they don't sell the home controller.  My current best price is $1395 for the Home Controller 2 and $749 for the Lite.  Pretty big price difference between the two.  The LUA engine in the 2 is the only difference I'm really interested in and something that I *might* need.  But thats double the price for something that I just might need....


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  Reply # 1493837 17-Feb-2016 11:41
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I would go for the HC2. I put a Lite in the old mans place and it is pretty basic. The rules engine doesn't allow you to do very much without the LUA scripting from what I understand. And it keeps dropping off the network requiring a restart. It doesn't have the latest v4 firmware but I am not sure if that is even available yet?

 

You obviously gave up on openHAB? 




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  Reply # 1493841 17-Feb-2016 11:49
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I would go for the HC2. I put a Lite in the old mans place and it is pretty basic. The rules engine doesn't allow you to do very much without the LUA scripting from what I understand. And it keeps dropping off the network requiring a restart. It doesn't have the latest v4 firmware but I am not sure if that is even available yet?

 

You obviously gave up on openHAB? 

 

 

My problem with openHAB was the zwave binding I found very flaky and became a PITA.  The rules were good, but also they were pretty complex and required a lot of code to set them up.  In the end it was just to much work for me, I rather be doing something else :)

 

I was having to use both the Vera lite and openHAB since openHAB wouldnt support all my zwave devices (locks etc).  I found the mios addon for openHAB better but its a PITA having the split setup like that.

 

The vera lite is pretty good, but the rules are extremely basic and its very difficult to do an "AND" condition on a rule.  For example I want a rule like this

 

- When Bathroom door is opened
- and time is after 6pm or before 6am
- Then, turn on light

 

Also whenever I try to upgrade firmware on the vera lite it craps out, every single f-ing time.  It maybe the addons I've downloaded, but having to reset the thing to upgrade is just too much work.

 

In the end, I've decided I want a simple rule wizard where I can pick conditions with AND/OR then pick actions.  Just like MailMarshal/WebMarshal (I work on MailMarshal, its a simple rule wizard, its frustrating using something that isnt when it just should be).


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  Reply # 1493847 17-Feb-2016 12:02
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I am surprised to hear you had issues with the Z-Wave binding. It is pretty stable these days, mine runs for months with 25+ devices and never misses a beat. The only time I restart openHAB is when I make significant changes to item definitions and rules.

 

Are you using one of the new Gen5 Z-Sticks? I found things a LOT better after upgrading. Admittedly it was a bit of a ball-ache excluding and re-including all my devices on the new stick, but it seems a load more stable. And for $120 it is a pretty cheap upgrade.

 

The security command class support is definitely a missing piece. There was someone working on it a while back but they have gone quiet. Should be doable since the guys at OpenZWave have implemented it now, but a matter of someone finding the time (and having devices to test) to actually do it.

 

FYI - a lot of people are using your Imperihab binding - a few have been asking where you are and if it is being maintained!




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  Reply # 1493856 17-Feb-2016 12:14
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SumnerBoy:

 

I am surprised to hear you had issues with the Z-Wave binding. It is pretty stable these days, mine runs for months with 25+ devices and never misses a beat. The only time I restart openHAB is when I make significant changes to item definitions and rules.

 

Are you using one of the new Gen5 Z-Sticks? I found things a LOT better after upgrading. Admittedly it was a bit of a ball-ache excluding and re-including all my devices on the new stick, but it seems a load more stable. And for $120 it is a pretty cheap upgrade.

 

The security command class support is definitely a missing piece. There was someone working on it a while back but they have gone quiet. Should be doable since the guys at OpenZWave have implemented it now, but a matter of someone finding the time (and having devices to test) to actually do it.

 

FYI - a lot of people are using your Imperihab binding - a few have been asking where you are and if it is being maintained!

 

 

lol have they?  I use to get emails about it and then they just stopped :) The source code is all up there, pretty easy to maintain (once you have the openHAB development setup, which I dont, formatting my machine for windows 10 :)) 

 

I was using the binding until my system started to crap out over the last couple of months, somethign I was going to look at over xmas holidays but got busy with other stuff.  I pulled out 3 zwave modules from my bedrooms because they were dimmers and I couldnt get LED bulbs working with them.  The stuff that really works great for me is door locks, cameras, motion sensors in hallways, turning lights on when the tv is switched off in the lounge at night etc.  But those 4in1 motion sensors are a PITA and wont always work with the vera or zwave stick.   So I figure if I go for the Fibaro its a much more polished product and hopefully everything will work.  But the price will make me do lots of homework before hand.  I'm also wanting to integrate it into an alarm system, so if someone enters a pin on the front door lock the alarm is automatically turned off etc.

 

IMO openHAB could be great, but its just so much work, once its running sure its great, but during the initial setup/if something breaks it becomes a nightmare, and just something I dont want to spend my time on (I have enough crap around the house to spend my time on :)).

 

 

 

 


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