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PSlover14

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#288915 1-Aug-2021 01:37
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I realize everyone wanting to build a budget PC for gaming etc is probably after these boards but figure it's worth a shot. This is on behalf of my flatmate, who I'm helping build his computer.

 

He's had some poor luck in putting his PC together, 2 dead CPUs, 1 dead motherboard and 1 struggling one. I've been helping him build it, and it really needs a 8 or 9 series chipset motherboard, preferably Z87 or Z97 but if it's an H-series chipset with four RAM slots that will work as well (he already has RAM and a working CPU). Proof that it works would be awesome (solely because I think the dead motherboard cost him something shocking like $300 only to blow the CPU 12v circuitry a day after getting a working CPU) and pickup in Hamilton even better, however happy to pay extra for courier.

Preferably if it supports an i5-4570 out of the box (ie BIOS updated) that would be awesome too, we weren't sure with his first board if it was a dead CPU or just a motherboard without the latest BIOS hence the purchase of the 4570.

 

I don't know if it could sweeten the deal at all but I'd be willing to trade a Dell Optiplex (don't remember specific model, its a SFF model hence why I haven't just given my flatmate this computer to use since the GPU won't fit, will post model # in the morning) with an i5-2400, 8GB of RAM and 500GB HDD plus extra for the right deal.

 

 

 

Regarding the Ryzen motherboard I mentioned in the subject, we have access to a Ryzen 5 2600 that if all else fails we could be interested in doing a trade in order to use, the idea would be we'd swap the i5-4570 and 32GB of DDR3 (4x8GB) for a Ryzen motherboard and an equivalent amount of memory (2133 would be fine), however this is probably a last resort option.

 

 

 

Thanks in advance,

 

pslover14

 

 


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  #2753132 1-Aug-2021 02:36
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The Ryzen 5 2600 is such a stark improvement that you're really much, MUCH better off selling the i5 and RAM and then buying a motherboard and RAM for the Ryzen instead.

 

If you want the MOST flexibility for future upgrades, an X570 Board is a must, it'll support Ryzen 2000 series CPUs right through to 5000 series without issue, all officially. A little cheaper, you could go x470 which can usually use beta bioses to get Ryzen 5000 support, as can some B450 boards, but that's per manufacturer and I wouldn't bet on it.

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MBDASU25710/ASUS-PRIME-X570-PCSM-ATX-For-AMD-Ryzen-2nd3rd-Gen

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MBDASU22208A/ASUS-PRIME-PRIME-B450M-A-II-mATX-For-AMD-Ryzen-2nd

 

The B450 Motherboard is validated by Asus to run the R9 5900X, so in theory that would be a fantastic pick, and in fact I would probably go with one of those for the value.

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MBDASU22216/ASUS-TUF-B450-PLUS-GAMING-ATX-For-AMD-Ryzen-2nd3rd

 

This is also a great option if full sized ATX is a must.

 

If 32GB RAM is a must (I would say no, given that this is a budget new build), you could pick up

 

https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MEMCOR70224/Corsair-Vengeance-LPX-32GB-RAM-2x16GB-DDR4-3200-MH

 

or alternatively, and more affordably, https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/MEMGSK3828/GSKILL-Ripjaws-V-Series-Black-16GB-DDR4-Desktop-Me

 

I'd buy new RAM regardless, as at a glance you're going to be overpaying on Trademe, unless there's someone on Geekzone with some extra they'd like to offload. Just make sure you get a matched pair, DDR4 3200 is the sweet spot. CL16 if possible, but don't sweat over that as it's pretty marginal.

 

Same again for the motherboard, I personally find the trademe asking prices extrodinary. If you want to go that path you'll save a little bit for a full sized ATX board, but you might as well bite the bullet on going all new. All up, $280 to buy those two brand new parts (the B450M + 16GB of RAM) which will result in a MUCH better system. Flick the Optiplex for $100-$200, flick the CPU for $50-$100, the RAM for $100-200 (I actually could possibly get a buyer for the RAM, cash pick up depending on the exact specs).

 

 

 

TL;DR The Ryzen is WAY better and will last longer, and have the option of upgrading to a Ryzen 5000 series CPU in the future. Go with that.





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  #2753159 1-Aug-2021 11:32
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I have a spare B450 board which already has the latest bios to support Ryzen 5000 and fTPM for windows 11 if interested.

Board is Gigabyte b450m Gaming mATX

Might have some ddr4 RAM to suit somewhere as well, 2x 8gb 3200mhz Corsair Vengence lpx

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  #2753193 1-Aug-2021 13:40
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Yes agreed with above, unless you’re basically getting it for free or everything under $400 or so it’s much better to get current gen chips.

Even something like i3 10100 or 11400 CPU blows past old haswell era hardware.

Do build around the 2600 as you’d need a well clocked i7 4770k/4790k to compare even single-threaded performance.

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