[Snap] Strange latency before 9pm

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Kiwiownage

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#124628 14-Jul-2013 16:57

Hey guys.

Over the last 2 or so weeks I've been having some strange latency issues with battle.net, Basically my latency reads around the 200 mark but it feels like 500-1000, then bang on 9pm it'll drop down to 150 and everything runs smooth as.

Tracerts show some slight higher pings before 9pm, but nothing that explains why its bouncing around between 500-1000.

Any ideas? I don't think its packet loss, and no one else on my server is getting this issue. I don't think its computer related as all the issues dissapear late at night, I would say congestion but seeing as though I'm the only person on my cabinet.. I don't think its that either.

Any ideas? (on the snap 100/50 fiber plan)

Here's a tracert which doesn't help explainanything :s

Tracing route to 12.129.254.216 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
2 32 ms 8 ms 23 ms 136.53.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.53.136]

3 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms 128.53.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.53.128]

4 22 ms 24 ms 23 ms xe-0-3-0-1037.mdr.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.66
]
5 20 ms 22 ms 23 ms 111-69-27-65.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.65]
6 151 ms 150 ms 151 ms te7-3.ccr01.sjc05.atlas.cogentco.com [38.122.92.
105]
7 175 ms 176 ms 176 ms te0-3-0-7.ccr22.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
.6.69]
8 187 ms 185 ms 185 ms te0-2-0-1.ccr22.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
.5.70]
9 151 ms 153 ms 153 ms be2024.ccr22.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30
.194]
10 192 ms 190 ms 194 ms 192.205.35.5
11 222 ms 195 ms 196 ms cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.84.202]
12 190 ms 225 ms 196 ms gar29.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.241]
13 189 ms 196 ms 189 ms 12-122-254-238.attens.net [12.122.254.238]
14 194 ms 195 ms 191 ms mdf001c7613r0004-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.12
9.193.250]

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#855368 14-Jul-2013 16:57

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#855396 14-Jul-2013 17:41

How do you know your the only person on the cabinet at 9pm?

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#855400 14-Jul-2013 17:46

Hmm, it's a little hard to tell what's going on there because the tracert isn't able to be completed and the IP itself isn't pingable.

Post a tracert of what you can see after 9pm anyway and I'll try to remember to do the same.

Kiwiownage

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#855430 14-Jul-2013 18:30

Gooseybhai: How do you know your the only person on the cabinet at 9pm?

I'm the only person on my cabinet all day everyday. I've got it all to myself :)

Kiwiownage

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#855431 14-Jul-2013 18:31

SamF: Hmm, it's a little hard to tell what's going on there because the tracert isn't able to be completed and the IP itself isn't pingable.

Post a tracert of what you can see after 9pm anyway and I'll try to remember to do the same.

Will do!

kiwirock

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#855505 14-Jul-2013 21:20

Tracing route to 12.129.254.216 over a maximum of 30 hops

1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms                                                [172.27.51.254]

2     2 ms    99 ms    99 ms    [172.27.55.254]

3    83 ms    72 ms    83 ms 136.53.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.53.136]

4    57 ms    59 ms    61 ms 128.53.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.53.128]

5    69 ms    70 ms    71 ms xe-0-3-0-1037.mdr.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.66]

6    72 ms    72 ms    72 ms 111-69-27-65.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.65]

7     *      179 ms     *     te7-3.ccr01.sjc05.atlas.cogentco.com [38.122.92.105]

8   171 ms   173 ms   176 ms te0-2-0-4.ccr22.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.84.57]

9   177 ms   177 ms   184 ms te0-3-0-2.ccr22.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.2.149]

10   192 ms   186 ms   184 ms be2024.ccr22.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.194]

11   187 ms   191 ms   196 ms att.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.11.10]

12   235 ms   234 ms   232 ms cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.84.202]

13   194 ms   196 ms   190 ms gar20.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.181]

14   194 ms   196 ms   189 ms 12-122-254-234.attens.net [12.122.254.234]

15   181 ms   183 ms   189 ms mdf001c7613r0002.lax1.attens.net [206.16.68.54]

16     *        *        *     Request timed out.

The above was at 9:19PM tonight. I checked around 6PM here and it was about 220ms at the time but the additional latency was in the US, not NZ to US.

Kiwiownage

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#855506 14-Jul-2013 21:25

Heres me @ 9:20 pm currently its perfect, but anything before 9pm is just unplayable

Tracing route to 12.129.254.216 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 2 20 ms 18 ms 21 ms 136.53.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.53.136]

3 9 ms 9 ms 7 ms 128.53.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.53.128]

4 23 ms 23 ms 47 ms xe-0-3-0-1037.mdr.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.66
]
5 21 ms 38 ms 21 ms 111-69-27-65.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.65]
6 151 ms 152 ms 151 ms te7-3.ccr01.sjc05.atlas.cogentco.com [38.122.92.
105]
7 177 ms 175 ms 174 ms te0-3-0-7.ccr22.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
.6.69]
8 188 ms 185 ms 186 ms te0-2-0-1.ccr22.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54
.5.70]
9 152 ms 154 ms 154 ms be2024.ccr22.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30
.194]
10 153 ms 155 ms 154 ms 192.205.35.5
11 189 ms 157 ms 185 ms cr2.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.84.218]
12 184 ms 185 ms 153 ms gar29.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.129.241]
13 154 ms 155 ms 154 ms 12-122-254-238.attens.net [12.122.254.238]
14 155 ms 153 ms 153 ms mdf001c7613r0004-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.12
9.193.250]

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Kiwiownage

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#855510 14-Jul-2013 21:31

There's a definite drop in latency, but it still doesn't explain why I get 500~ pings before 9pm, the difference between the pre 9pm and after 9pm is only like 50~

kiwirock

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#855526 14-Jul-2013 21:54

Which hop is the 500~?

Some routers I've found respond to trace route slower than ping at times. But that IP won't ping for me or finish a trace route on.

At the moment 9:56 I'm getting around 207ms, take in to account I'm 20-30ms more on ADSL.

kiwirock

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#855528 14-Jul-2013 21:56

And 20ms more for living on the bottom of the earth.

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#855529 14-Jul-2013 21:56

I sorta find it hard to believe you're the only person on the cabinet ;)

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#855537 14-Jul-2013 22:19

Interesting, I'm getting the same 50ms drop now too.

Tracing route to 12.129.254.216 over a maximum of 30 hops

1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms firewall.int [x.x.x.x]
2     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms modem.int [x.x.x.x]
3     7 ms    18 ms     6 ms 16.17.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.17.16]
4     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms 54.32.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.32.54]
5     6 ms     7 ms     6 ms 111-69-27-65.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.65]
6   135 ms   134 ms   135 ms te7-3.ccr01.sjc05.atlas.cogentco.com [38.122.92.105]
7   160 ms   160 ms   160 ms te0-3-0-7.ccr22.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.69]
8   170 ms   170 ms   170 ms te0-4-0-2.ccr22.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.85.33]
9   138 ms   137 ms   137 ms be2024.ccr22.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.194]
10   137 ms   137 ms   205 ms 192.205.37.157
11   139 ms   139 ms   140 ms cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.84.202]
12   137 ms   137 ms   138 ms gar20.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.181]
13   138 ms   171 ms   138 ms 12-122-254-234.attens.net [12.122.254.234]
14   138 ms   138 ms   150 ms mdf001c7613r0004-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.250]

But yeah, that doesn't explain the 500ms pings you're getting. Where do you see these ping times?

Kiwiownage

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#855548 14-Jul-2013 22:43

michaelmurfy: I sorta find it hard to believe you're the only person on the cabinet ;)

Believe what you want I don't really care, I got to test fiber for snap when it was first installed back in june last year, we had some of the chorus heads even fly down from auckland to install it & make sure everything went smoothly. I've even had them knock on the door when they've been fiddling with the cabinet to make sure they didn't knock us off because like I said, we have it all to ourselves(Which was told to me by the chorus employees working on it).

Although just looking outside now the footpath has been ripped up, so this may no longer be the case, This could also be the issue.

There are no hops that are above 300~ ping, which is why its so confusing. As i said in my first post, the latency reads 200~ but the delay on everything is definitely 500-1000 (before 9pm) and then bang on 9pm the latency still reads the same but its a lot more responsive

Kiwiownage

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#855550 14-Jul-2013 22:45

SamF: Interesting, I'm getting the same 50ms drop now too.

Tracing route to 12.129.254.216 over a maximum of 30 hops

1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms firewall.int [x.x.x.x]
2     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms modem.int [x.x.x.x]
3     7 ms    18 ms     6 ms 16.17.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.17.16]
4     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms 54.32.69.111.static.snap.net.nz [111.69.32.54]
5     6 ms     7 ms     6 ms 111-69-27-65.core.snap.net.nz [111.69.27.65]
6   135 ms   134 ms   135 ms te7-3.ccr01.sjc05.atlas.cogentco.com [38.122.92.105]
7   160 ms   160 ms   160 ms te0-3-0-7.ccr22.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.6.69]
8   170 ms   170 ms   170 ms te0-4-0-2.ccr22.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.85.33]
9   138 ms   137 ms   137 ms be2024.ccr22.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.30.194]
10   137 ms   137 ms   205 ms 192.205.37.157
11   139 ms   139 ms   140 ms cr1.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.84.202]
12   137 ms   137 ms   138 ms gar20.la2ca.ip.att.net [12.122.128.181]
13   138 ms   171 ms   138 ms 12-122-254-234.attens.net [12.122.254.234]
14   138 ms   138 ms   150 ms mdf001c7613r0004-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.250]

But yeah, that doesn't explain the 500ms pings you're getting. Where do you see these ping times?

Using an in-game mod to show "real" latency, every cast has a delay from 500-1000, but the ping reads 200~.

It's also very skippy, people blinking around the map etc, but from my tracerts etc I see no packet loss, which is why I'm so confused...

Kiwiownage

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#855551 14-Jul-2013 22:46

kiwirock: Which hop is the 500~?

Some routers I've found respond to trace route slower than ping at times. But that IP won't ping for me or finish a trace route on.

At the moment 9:56 I'm getting around 207ms, take in to account I'm 20-30ms more on ADSL.

Blizzard doesn't allow you to ping their servers, it's to prevent ddos attacks etc.

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