sbiddle: I guess we need to know how they're deploying services. I'm guessing they could be using Baseband IP for the voice with UBA on top it's limited to the areas where an ISAM-V card is deployed.

NonprayingMantis:
ETA; I also seriously doubt slingshot have 60% coverage of NZ households unless you include all the cabinetised customers, which means they would get crummy BB because of midpoint injection.

NonprayingMantis: They also need to be very careful about advertising ?free? broadband.

The comcom doesn?t like you advertising a free product that requires you to buy something else.
http://www.comcom.govt.nz/add-ons-and-hidden-fees/


"If something is advertised as free, it must be truly 'free'. This means there must be no extra cost to the customer above the normal price of the goods, whether up-front or built into the price.
For example, 'free delivery' must be just that. It is deceptive to add on the cost of delivery to the price and then claim that delivery is free. If another customer who picked up the goods would pay a lower price, then delivery is not free. Any conditions on an offer to deliver should be made clear, such as if delivery is free only within the central city or only for goods over a certain value.
The same applies to the use of words and phrases such as 'extra', 'give-away' or 'two for the price of one'.
Promotions where customers are offered a free gift for buying a certain item will breach the Fair Trading Act if the cost of the item being sold is inflated to cover part or all of the cost of the 'gift'. Likewise, if a free item is replaced by a discount for those who don't want the item, this may also breach the Act, as it can indicate that the cost of the free item is actually built into the price.
If there are any limitations on the offer, such as 'only with orders over $100', then these should be clearly stated. Items should not be advertised as free if they require the purchase of installation services or additional features.
Advertised promotional bonuses such as free items should be provided automatically, not on the basis of customers having to specifically request them."

I?m not saying they are breaching those rules right now, but I seem to remember Vodafone got pinged a few years back for doing something very similar.
?12 months free broadband? ? when you buy a landline for $50

sbiddle:

jbard:

semigeek:

jbard: Pricing looks very good for low usage customers. Not sure what areas they cover though. They say 60% but my address in central Dunedin returns not available in your area.

Not good, my area of Dunedin is good to go. 

Yeah it seems I am just outside Slingshots LLU. Can't find a map anywhere of the exact area though.

I guess we need to know how they're deploying services. I'm guessing they could be using Baseband IP for the voice with UBA on top it's limited to the areas where an ISAM-V card is deployed.

NonprayingMantis:

sbiddle:

jbard:

semigeek:

jbard: Pricing looks very good for low usage customers. Not sure what areas they cover though. They say 60% but my address in central Dunedin returns not available in your area.

Not good, my area of Dunedin is good to go. 

Yeah it seems I am just outside Slingshots LLU. Can't find a map anywhere of the exact area though.

I guess we need to know how they're deploying services. I'm guessing they could be using Baseband IP for the voice with UBA on top it's limited to the areas where an ISAM-V card is deployed.

even that would be pricing at a loss wouldn't it?

$50 less GST = $43 revenue

baseband IP + UBA is something like $40
and that is before any other costs like backhaul, international data, staff, overheads, etc etc

PaulBrislen: LLU based service, I'm told. Only available in those places CP/Sling has access to unbundled lines. 

sbiddle:

PaulBrislen: LLU based service, I'm told. Only available in those places CP/Sling has access to unbundled lines. 

So how are they offering service from cabinets? I can get Flip at my house.

coffeebaron:

sbiddle:

PaulBrislen: LLU based service, I'm told. Only available in those places CP/Sling has access to unbundled lines. 

So how are they offering service from cabinets? I can get Flip at my house.

I just tried a cabinetised address too. Will be interesting to see if they do use the cabinet; else they will have some serious complaints about speed issues.