2 Degrees estimated to have at least 100,000 connections

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#273572 16-Nov-2009 16:44

I know that a crapload of iphone users have moved to XT just because of the GSM fallback being a problem with using vodafone with no handset option to solve it like nokias etc have.

And they are pretty much all stoked at it.

In saying that my sister moved from an old $19.95 vodafone plan to 2degrees because the monthly magic top up will see her using about half the amount or less at the current usage of the phone, which will probably go up since its now affordable to use.

Mum has moved because she was angry at vodafone being useless on the phone and it means that its cheaper for my sister and me to call her with the majic top up.

I know a couple of people that have moved their spare phones to 2 degrees to just get the bonus credit etc out of them.

I would say that 100000 is a gross underestimation after thinking about it.

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#273576 16-Nov-2009 16:49

richms: I know that a crapload of iphone users have moved to XT just because of the GSM fallback being a problem with using vodafone with no handset option to solve it like nokias etc have.

And they are pretty much all stoked at it.

In saying that my sister moved from an old $19.95 vodafone plan to 2degrees because the monthly magic top up will see her using about half the amount or less at the current usage of the phone, which will probably go up since its now affordable to use.

Mum has moved because she was angry at vodafone being useless on the phone and it means that its cheaper for my sister and me to call her with the majic top up.

I know a couple of people that have moved their spare phones to 2 degrees to just get the bonus credit etc out of them.

I would say that 100000 is a gross underestimation after thinking about it.

I agree. It wouldn't surprise me if they had at least 150,000 customers by now. Until the CEO releases the numbers one can only speculate.

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#278876 2-Dec-2009 21:48

When you do the statistics it works out roughly that 1 in 45 kiwis are on 2 degrees which seems fairly believeable

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#278878 2-Dec-2009 21:53

I've heard today 2degrees got 4% of the New Zealand mobile market now...

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#278904 2-Dec-2009 23:59

freitasm: I've heard today 2degrees got 4% of the New Zealand mobile market now...

So, if we have 110% market pentration for mobiles (as per NBR Article) with 4.3 Million people, then thats 189,200 customers, which explains the 2 Degree's CEO saying that Analyst's had under estimated by saying 100,000 customers.

What their Average Revenue Per Subscriber value is, is a entirely different matter, hopefully it's more than $2. :)

So the total's so far

Telecom 2,250,000
Vodafone 2,511,000
2Degrees 189,200

Off to the races we go, not a bad start for 2 Degree's, and Telecom 261k behind Vodafone.

Those better at math than me please check my figures :-)

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#279397 4-Dec-2009 17:48

will be interesting to see the outcome in 1 or 2 years time

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#283719 18-Dec-2009 12:23

It looks like 65900 total connections.

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#283731 18-Dec-2009 13:05

Behodar: It looks like 65900 total connections.

Nonsense. The article says 65900 + however many people kept thier original allocated 2degrees number and didn't change it. I know a lot of people in that category...

EDIT: obviously a timing issue and the article has been edited...

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#283734 18-Dec-2009 13:09

Hmm, the article's been edited. It did say something to the effect of "a spokeswoman said the above two categories did not account for every section of 2degrees' customer base, but she could not name a further category. In all of NBR's imagination, we cannot think of another category either".

The article has now been updated with a third category of people that didn't change their "random" 022 number, when in the earlier version that category seemed to be included in the 23400.

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#290648 17-Jan-2010 07:11

I also have 4 2degrees simcards..i hardly ever use them now and 2 have never been used at all...it is more a novelty and at $2 each its like an emergency simcard in case i didnt have enough money on my Vodafone or Telecom phone..i find putting my 2degrees into other providers phones can be tricky...i got money taken off my account even tho i never used the phone!!

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#290675 17-Jan-2010 10:59

jimboinz: i got money taken off my account even tho i never used the phone!!

Really?

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#290677 17-Jan-2010 11:09

jimboinz: i find putting my 2degrees into other providers phones can be tricky...

Tricky? A SIM card? It's obviously not 2degrees fault if the phones you use are "complicated".

jimboinz: i got money taken off my account even tho i never used the phone!!

This hasn't happend to me.

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#290679 17-Jan-2010 11:41

Oh sorry i had a vodafone simcard in my Telecom r6 model and they (Telecom) must have taken 40c off even tho i never used it.

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#290687 17-Jan-2010 12:58

jimboinz: Oh sorry i had a vodafone simcard in my Telecom r6 model and they (Telecom) must have taken 40c off even tho i never used it.

Sure your phone didn't use data?

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#290689 17-Jan-2010 13:00

jimboinz: Oh sorry i had a vodafone simcard in my Telecom r6 model and they (Telecom) must have taken 40c off even tho i never used it.

If you have a Vodafone SIM card on any handset then Vodafone is the one charging you. It doesn't matter if it's a Telecom handset, or an imported handset. Telecom has nothing to do with your Vodafone SIM card - not even if you use their handsets.

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