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exportgoldman
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  #214298 12-May-2009 10:18
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How about any data to the APE?




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  #214421 12-May-2009 17:08
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Signed up cause this post caught my eye.
The other day I requested the Local Steam Content Server (recoil.net.nz) for game downloads/updates .. and suggested considering some of the international.

I also asked as to why all national traffic can't isn't simply free, as it once was on some ISPs.

Received the following response, which may answer some of the NZ based bandwidth remarks:

"With regards to your question about why there is a charge for NZ based bandwidth, the simple answer is because we have to pay for it ourselves. I'm unsure of the exact reason for why NZ bandwidth use was free in the first place, but I believe it was because a couple of ISPs in New Zealand (not Orcon I'm afraid) peered the data locally. The reasons why those ISPs stopped doing so I can't really comment on. I imagine it just became untenable to continue."

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  #214424 12-May-2009 17:11
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MrEnmity: Signed up cause this post caught my eye.

The other day I requested the Local Steam Content Server (recoil.net.nz) for game downloads/updates .. and suggested considering some of the international.



I also asked as to why all national traffic can't isn't simply free, as it once was on some ISPs.



Received the following response, which may answer some of the NZ based bandwidth remarks:



"With regards to your question about why there is a charge for NZ based bandwidth, the simple answer is because we have to pay for it ourselves. I'm unsure of the exact reason for why NZ bandwidth use was free in the first place, but I believe it was because a couple of ISPs in New Zealand (not Orcon I'm afraid) peered the data locally. The reasons why those ISPs stopped doing so I can't really comment on. I imagine it just became untenable to continue."



And from your posting, it doesnt look like they answered your initial question.. (unless you didnt post it of course)



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  #214429 12-May-2009 17:20
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I am sure when i was with Orcon and they had free national traffic ~5 years ago




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  #214433 12-May-2009 17:37
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Aaroona:

Sorry, my original question, (about the Steam content servers), seemed like a bog-standard response, so I didn't include it. Here was the basic response though:

"We've received a ton of great ideas, great but may take some time to go through," and

"If we decide we would like to add recoil.net.nz or other local steam content servers to the O Zone, we will definitely be in touch."



Pretty good response time, about 18 hours.


I do wish there could be free national traffic though.


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  #215153 15-May-2009 22:21
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I would like to see free or heavily discounted data between orcon customers, if not all national data. I assume that things like p2p and direct download (rapidshare etc) use a good chunk if not a majority of orcons international traffic, and that the price of national data is a pittance in comparison.
Now if there was free or cheap (eg 10c/GB) data between even just orcon customers, then there would be alot of incentive for heavy users to grab their various p2p and other files over something like a DC++ hub run by other orcon users. As well as potentially saving customers' money, this would greatly reduce the load on orcons international links (saving orcon money amirite?).

Extend this to include other ISP's and add some half decent peering and the internet situation in NZ would become a whole lot better IMO.


Currently tvnzondemand seems like the only thing in the O-Zone that would save more than a 1GB/month Frown how about you add rapidshare.com mirrors Tongue out

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  #215155 15-May-2009 22:24
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Kris89: I would like to see free or heavily discounted data between orcon customers, if not all national data. I assume that things like p2p and direct download (rapidshare etc) use a good chunk if not a majority of orcons international traffic, and that the price of national data is a pittance in comparison.
Now if there was free or cheap (eg 10c/GB) data between even just orcon customers, then there would be alot of incentive for heavy users to grab their various p2p and other files over something like a DC++ hub run by other orcon users. As well as potentially saving customers' money, this would greatly reduce the load on orcons international links (saving orcon money amirite?).

Extend this to include other ISP's and add some half decent peering and the internet situation in NZ would become a whole lot better IMO.


Currently tvnzondemand seems like the only thing in the O-Zone that would save more than a 1GB/month Frown




Exactly.

I love your logic.


To be honest, I actually didnt use TVNZOD at all before the o'zone came in.


 
 
 

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  #215454 17-May-2009 23:09
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You're aware the O Zone doesn't start until 23rd May, right?

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  #215598 18-May-2009 14:28
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bazzer: You're aware the O Zone doesn't start until 23rd May, right?



didnt know that... where does it say this>

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  #215607 18-May-2009 14:42
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Hi guys,

Have added some FAQ's on the website. Let me know if you have any other questions that I might have missed and I am happy to make additions: http://www.orcon.net.nz/support/browse/category/o_zone

The launch date of the 23rd has been publicized on all communications that we have sent out/put on our website about this - sorry if there was some confusion.

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  #215616 18-May-2009 15:17
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some local sites
http://www.stuff.co.nz/
http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/
http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf
http://computerworld.co.nz/

really need the new cable to Australia.
In many overseas countries international bandwidth is so cheap they don't bother with data caps

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  #215617 18-May-2009 15:19
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Aaroona:
bazzer: You're aware the O Zone doesn't start until 23rd May, right?


didnt know that... where does it say this>

If you look back at this thread, ZiglioNZ posted their email (I'm assuming you probably got one too).  It says "From 23 May 2009, when you visit sites that are part of the O Zone you can visit them as often as you like without these contributing to your monthly data usage."

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  #215620 18-May-2009 15:30
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I don't see the point in adding mainly text and image based websites to the O zone. It's going to have such a minimal saving impact to our usage




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  #215905 19-May-2009 13:50
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Is that the point? ;)

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  #215986 19-May-2009 16:37
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bazzer: Is that the point? ;)


Probably!




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