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#235252 14-Jul-2009 17:14

and one from the capital hill (Washington DC)

w2krules

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#235435 15-Jul-2009 00:08

I downloaded Firefox 3.5 at an average of about 80 kB/s. Not even 1 Mb/s, and anyway, why isn't it cached locally???

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#235436 15-Jul-2009 00:09

w2krules: I downloaded Firefox 3.5 at an average of about 80 kB/s. Not even 1 Mb/s, and anyway, why isn't it cached locally???

Meh, I hate that.

I just end up using a download manager for my files. then i can at least get fast speeds.

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#235445 15-Jul-2009 05:09

Aaroona:
w2krules: I downloaded Firefox 3.5 at an average of about 80 kB/s. Not even 1 Mb/s, and anyway, why isn't it cached locally???

Meh, I hate that.

I just end up using a download manager for my files. then i can at least get fast speeds.

Exactly. And we can get very fast Torrent downloads on Orcon, so obviously their bandwidth management is a very blunt instrument.

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#235473 15-Jul-2009 09:04

Exactly. And we can get very fast Torrent downloads on Orcon, so obviously their bandwidth management is a very blunt instrument.

Don't forget that the internet is made up of a series of tubes!. One tube could be fuller than the others, which results in speeds varying.

The bandwidth management can only control data that comes into the Orcon network. If the bottleneck is elsewhere in the Internet, it will have no effect.

w2krules

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#235554 15-Jul-2009 11:15

Thanks Sounddude. But if we can get faster downloads by paralleling tubes at our end using download managers and Torrents, then surely the problem is in NZ?

What is really frustrating is Orcon's outstanding performance locally, which of course makes the poor overseas performance look even worse.

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Aaroona

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#235567 15-Jul-2009 11:24

w2krules: Thanks Sounddude. But if we can get faster downloads by paralleling tubes at our end using download managers and Torrents, then surely the problem is in NZ?

What is really frustrating is Orcon's outstanding performance locally, which of course makes the poor overseas performance look even worse.

You got that right :(

Since ADSL2+ is avaliable out here with Telecom and what not now, I actually have other options, yay!

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#235590 15-Jul-2009 12:19

w2krules: Thanks Sounddude. But if we can get faster downloads by paralleling tubes at our end using download managers and Torrents, then surely the problem is in NZ?

yes and no. Latency has a big effect on TCP traffic, as it slows the recept of TCP ACKS down. If the acks are delayed it caused TCP speed to ramp down, even though there is excess bandwidth avaliable.

This is generally why International speeds are lower than national speeds. Bonding multiple TCP sessions together gets around this. Its just a pain for the user.

Also some websites will actually ratelimit connections. Again multple streams get around this.

There are many many many reasons why some international sites are slow.

Aaroona

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#235593 15-Jul-2009 12:21

Sounddude:
w2krules: Thanks Sounddude. But if we can get faster downloads by paralleling tubes at our end using download managers and Torrents, then surely the problem is in NZ?

Also some websites will actually ratelimit connections. Again multple streams get around this.

There are many many many reasons why some international sites are slow.

Makes sense..

I actually tweaked Firefox to open up quite a few more connections, and since, have noticed web browsing has been a lot faster.

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#235647 15-Jul-2009 13:48

Aaroona:

Makes sense..

I actually tweaked Firefox to open up quite a few more connections, and since, have noticed web browsing has been a lot faster.

What did you change them to?

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#236261 16-Jul-2009 20:37

International runs like a dog with one leg. You Tube is just a giant buffer fest.

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#236279 16-Jul-2009 21:31

Snackos: International runs like a dog with one leg. You Tube is just a giant buffer fest.

Couldnt have said it better myself

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#236348 17-Jul-2009 09:03

We are looking into it. Its not the norm.

Are you guys on Orcon+? or Orcon@home?

Aaroona

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#236374 17-Jul-2009 10:12

Sounddude: We are looking into it. Its not the norm.

Are you guys on Orcon+? or Orcon@home?

Orcon+ here.

Whangaparaoa (if that is any help)

Snackos

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#236429 17-Jul-2009 12:24

Orcon@home here

You Tube is the worst. If I want to watch a 5 minutes video, I have to pause it and let it load for a few minutes just so i can watch it without any buffering.

Yet domestic speed is fantastic.

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