2degrees Touch2Pay with Snapper FAQ

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#633354 31-May-2012 13:17

It's a hit and miss and it is not certified. I am told sometimes it works, sometimes not.

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#633574 31-May-2012 17:24

Does it have to be an SGIII from 2deg or will any one work properly?

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#633576 31-May-2012 17:35

You need the 2degrees SIM. There's a Java applet that runs on the SIM and provides the security identification to the app.

Other non 2degrees Snapper SIM cards will allow you to read/top up someone else's card, but won't make your handset work as a Snapper card.

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#635429 4-Jun-2012 13:22

Is this a 2Degrees only technology for a while or will Voda and Telecom jump on the bandwagon as well?

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#635456 4-Jun-2012 14:09

avecha: Is this a 2Degrees only technology for a while or will Voda and Telecom jump on the bandwagon as well?

Anybody can use the technology, it's just a matter of VF and Telecom deciding what solution to use for the secure element, ie SIM based or phone based. All 3 have signed a deal for a single TPM solution.

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#638190 9-Jun-2012 11:30

lchiu7: ... I will swap my son's phone number onto this SIM and see if the technology works on a non-certified phone. The 2D guys last night ware not sure it would work or not and to try it out!
If not then I will just wait till they release a revised app that works on more model phones and I am only out of pocket $5.

How'd it go? :-)

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#638227 9-Jun-2012 13:32

scottjpalmer: Does it have to be an SGIII from 2deg or will any one work properly?

I've heard that the Telecom/Vodafone Galaxy SIII's may not have the correct APIs to work with the full Snapper solution, even if you use a 2degrees Touch2Pay SIM card. But they should still be able to read/write to Snapper cards, even with a standard Telecom/Vodafone SIM.

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#638228 9-Jun-2012 13:34

sbiddle:
avecha: Is this a 2Degrees only technology for a while or will Voda and Telecom jump on the bandwagon as well?

Anybody can use the technology, it's just a matter of VF and Telecom deciding what solution to use for the secure element, ie SIM based or phone based. All 3 have signed a deal for a single TPM solution.

Actually, 2degrees has an exclusive deal with Snapper for the time being, I assume this is to help cover the R&D costs for the Touch2Pay solution.

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#638274 9-Jun-2012 16:17

amanzi:
scottjpalmer: Does it have to be an SGIII from 2deg or will any one work properly?

I've heard that the Telecom/Vodafone Galaxy SIII's may not have the correct APIs to work with the full Snapper solution, even if you use a 2degrees Touch2Pay SIM card. But they should still be able to read/write to Snapper cards, even with a standard Telecom/Vodafone SIM.

I can confirm that a VF supplied handset won't work with the Snapper app, even if a Touch2Pay SIM is used.

I've been down to the 2deg store with my SIM and the app won't pick up the fact that it is a Touch2Pay SIM, it asks you to use one, even though there is already one in the phone. The SIM card worked fine in their display model, leading me to believe that the VF firmware is missing the APIs.

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#638335 9-Jun-2012 21:05

captainsteve: The SIM card worked fine in their display model, leading me to believe that the VF firmware is missing the APIs.

Correct. It's only the 2d firmware that has this capability.

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#639491 12-Jun-2012 10:11

For those who still want to understand WHY Snapper has to use one specific model or another, you should read this post on Snapper and the importance of standards.

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#640332 13-Jun-2012 18:13

sbiddle:
captainsteve: The SIM card worked fine in their display model, leading me to believe that the VF firmware is missing the APIs.

Correct. It's only the 2d firmware that has this capability.

Can confirm this as well - I've got the 2degrees snapper sim in my Telecom branded SGS III and the widget doesn't work. However, I am able to use my phone as a snapper card, just not see my balance on the widget.

Is there any way to download the necessary API?

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#650127 3-Jul-2012 16:59

I assume this means that it won't work on something like Cyanogen Mod then? (Apologies if it's already covered - I haven't read the whole thread). If not, then does anyone know if there's a feature request for CM that's requesting the necessary APIs?

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#650169 3-Jul-2012 17:49

freitasm: For those who still want to understand WHY Snapper has to use one specific model or another, you should read this post on Snapper and the importance of standards.

As an Aucklander eagerly awaiting a single-card ticketing solution on our buses, trains, and ferries which isn't available because of Snapper's inability to support the chosen specification, this is a pretty galling (and intensely hypocritical) article to read.

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#650198 3-Jul-2012 19:03

Kyanar:
freitasm: For those who still want to understand WHY Snapper has to use one specific model or another, you should read this post on Snapper and the importance of standards.

As an Aucklander eagerly awaiting a single-card ticketing solution on our buses, trains, and ferries which isn't available because of Snapper's inability to support the chosen specification, this is a pretty galling (and intensely hypocritical) article to read.

Snapper is not supporting a specification. But is the specification STANDARD?

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