[Snap] Can we get bonded VDSL2?

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zCelicaDude

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#138051 18-Dec-2013 10:11

Hey guys,

Just wondering if we can get bonded connections in NZ, specifically bonded VDSL2?

Potentially 100MB down/20MB up with VDSL2 for those that cannot get Fibre for 3-8 years :(

Dairusire

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#954135 18-Dec-2013 10:50

Yeah you can, with snap, voyager etc. It's actually a top speed of around 140mb/s down and 20mb/s up if you can get on the 17a profile :)

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#954183 18-Dec-2013 11:52

Cool!

Does the ISP supply everything required,

Or do we need to get specific hardware to complete the task?

If so, what would the end user equipment be?

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#954228 18-Dec-2013 12:30

Chorus no not offer true bonded xDSL connections.

Many ISP's do offer the ability to do pseudo layer 2 bonding by installing several xDSL connections and effectively bonding these together.

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#954230 18-Dec-2013 12:31

The easiest/cheapest way I've found is 2 * Zyxel VDSL Routers in Bridge Mode and a Mikrotik Router RB2011.

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#954309 18-Dec-2013 14:00

sbiddle: Chorus no not offer true bonded xDSL connections.

Many ISP's do offer the ability to do pseudo layer 2 bonding by installing several xDSL connections and effectively bonding these together.

This is quite correct, I have noticed though with some companys they charge to setup this and maintain, so sometimes its cheaper to get a second line yourself and have VDSL installed on it and run load balancing across the two.

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#954318 18-Dec-2013 14:12

Dairusire:
sbiddle: Chorus no not offer true bonded xDSL connections.

Many ISP's do offer the ability to do pseudo layer 2 bonding by installing several xDSL connections and effectively bonding these together.

This is quite correct, I have noticed though with some companys they charge to setup this and maintain, so sometimes its cheaper to get a second line yourself and have VDSL installed on it and run load balancing across the two.

wouldnt load balancing limit you to a single thread throughput of one connection though?

i would expect it to come at atlest a bit of a extra cost though.

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#954319 18-Dec-2013 14:12

Dairusire:
sbiddle: Chorus no not offer true bonded xDSL connections.

Many ISP's do offer the ability to do pseudo layer 2 bonding by installing several xDSL connections and effectively bonding these together.

This is quite correct, I have noticed though with some companys they charge to setup this and maintain, so sometimes its cheaper to get a second line yourself and have VDSL installed on it and run load balancing across the two.

That is a poor solution compared to an ISP offered solution - it's merely a basic form of load balancing, not bonding. You really need to be in control of both ends of the L2 connection to have a decent solution.

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#954363 18-Dec-2013 15:00

sbiddle:
Dairusire:
sbiddle: Chorus no not offer true bonded xDSL connections.

Many ISP's do offer the ability to do pseudo layer 2 bonding by installing several xDSL connections and effectively bonding these together.

This is quite correct, I have noticed though with some companys they charge to setup this and maintain, so sometimes its cheaper to get a second line yourself and have VDSL installed on it and run load balancing across the two.

That is a poor solution compared to an ISP offered solution - it's merely a basic form of load balancing, not bonding. You really need to be in control of both ends of the L2 connection to have a decent solution.

I never said a better solution than an ISP offered solution. I said cheaper. I simply offered another option if someone was to really try to continue down this road.