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Athlonite

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#139461 10-Feb-2014 01:13

so have had Orcon VDSL on for nearly a month now and have yet to see the raved about 17b right from the start it was on 8b and has never moved not in 3 restarts early on in the game because VOIP wasn't working so here's a couple of screen shots from the modem

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so anybody with knowledge on this subject care to advance mine

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#983120 10-Feb-2014 03:44

15db. no way are you getting 17a.

BMarquis:

We have a number of conditions that must be met for your line to be switched to a 17a Spectrum profile.
If your line is on the 17a spectrum profile, but the spectrum between 8Mhz and 17Mhz is not being used, I'd be looking at your CPE. it shouldn't report 17a unless the DSLAM is providing that, and we run 8b and 17a on independant profiles.

As for the question of 'what allows a line to be on 17a':
The current bandplan is 8b (goes without saying!)
The line is shorter than 350 meters, which is an electrical length in the 5530 Network Analyser of DLM is in operation on that line
A Bandplan switch hasn't occured in the last 90 days (to stop bouncing between 8b+17a, while still allowing re-evaluation as/when required)

Hopefully this helps answer some questions?

your line is however, very clean, which is great.

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#983124 10-Feb-2014 07:02

DLM has worked perfectly - see the delay and INP settings they are at 0 meaning your at DLM-1 congrats.

A profile change is different to DLM

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#983137 10-Feb-2014 08:20

DLM has worked on your line as you are on DLM-1 (the lowest latency) but due to your attenuation and probably distance you most likely wont get a 17a profile.

see the criteria that hio77 mentioned in his post as to what you need to get a 17a profile.

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#983154 10-Feb-2014 08:48

You have a great connection and DLM has done it's job. As pointed out your attenuation is far too high to get 17a.

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#983161 10-Feb-2014 09:00

sbiddle: You have a great connection and DLM has done it's job. As pointed out your attenuation is far too high to get 17a.

What he says - I would be delighted to have your line rates :)

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#983204 10-Feb-2014 10:40

Looks like DLM has done its job mate.

The upstream with chorus's VDSL equipment is capped to around 10Mbit/sec so that rate is fine.

Attenuation has to be _at least_ 7db or lower to stand a chance to be upgraded from 8b to 17a.

I had 5.3db on 8b and it wasn't until last two days of the first 10 days I got promoted to 17a, attenuation went up to 6.1 afterwards too.

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#983326 10-Feb-2014 14:17

Thanks guys am now wiser about this than I was when the chorus guy was here he seemed to think that 17a was quite possible on my line and now I know its going as good as it will and looks good for what I'm getting I'm a happy camper

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#983330 10-Feb-2014 14:21

many chorus guys seem to talk out of their rearend with their vdsl knowledge, i personally have caught them out many times.

unfortunately, this tech was utterly wrong. and truely should have known <7db with his testing tool to confirm.

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#983372 10-Feb-2014 14:51

Thanks for everyone who posted. Staff didn't even touch this one. :-)

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#983385 10-Feb-2014 15:20

FlameBeard: Thanks for everyone who posted. Staff didn't even touch this one. :-)

pssh, orcon staff must just be slow at it :P

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#983394 10-Feb-2014 15:44

hio77:
FlameBeard: Thanks for everyone who posted. Staff didn't even touch this one. :-)

pssh, orcon staff must just be slow at it :P

Ouch

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#983408 10-Feb-2014 15:59

FlameBeard:
hio77:
FlameBeard: Thanks for everyone who posted. Staff didn't even touch this one. :-)

pssh, orcon staff must just be slow at it :P

Ouch

or more to the point ... busy

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#983411 10-Feb-2014 16:03

hyperman:
FlameBeard:
hio77:
FlameBeard: Thanks for everyone who posted. Staff didn't even touch this one. :-)

pssh, orcon staff must just be slow at it :P

Ouch

or more to the point ... busy

now now, dont be claiming orcon staff actually do things!

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#983414 10-Feb-2014 16:07

hio77:
hyperman:
FlameBeard:
hio77:
FlameBeard: Thanks for everyone who posted. Staff didn't even touch this one. :-)

pssh, orcon staff must just be slow at it :P

Ouch

or more to the point ... busy

now now, dont be claiming orcon staff actually do things!

Well its hard to say really

anyway at least this post has been resolved. Thanks to the fellow Geekzoners

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#983809 11-Feb-2014 05:42

spose I should actually send the black one back now everything is working fine

don't want to be charged for it now do I

Oh and yes thanks to all who helped to make me a little wiser than I was before cheers guys