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#141051 28-Feb-2014 08:44
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Hi,

I am trying to port forward from the internet to an appliance on the LAN of my Orcon Genius (UFB). I am able to make a telnet connection on the port to the appliance from with in the LAN, but not from outside (Tried from another PC and GRC shields up).



The port forward setup seems simple, but I am not sure what I am doing wrong...

Has anyone else done this with their router and if so do they have any pointers.

P.S I did restart the router after changing the settings an with no result

Thanks in advance.

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  #996018 28-Feb-2014 08:50
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Sorry, so just to make this clear, you want your device on your LAN to be reachable externally via telnet yeah?




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  #996029 28-Feb-2014 08:53
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make sure you have set your WAN Interface to the correct one

I think its ppp0 for ADSL and eth4 for UFB.

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  #996170 28-Feb-2014 10:40
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FlameBeard: Sorry, so just to make this clear, you want your device on your LAN to be reachable externally via telnet yeah?


Yes I am trying to access something on my LAN from the internet. I won't be using Telnet when I get it up and running, but I use it to test TCP channel connectivity. If I do not get the same results on the WAN as on the LAN then I assume the router is not correctly configured.

Sounddude: make sure you have set your WAN Interface to the correct one

I think its ppp0 for ADSL and eth4 for UFB.


I only have three options (working from memory as I am at work) ipoe_eth0/eth0.0, ppp0/ppp0 (think is the ADSL) and something to do with 3G/USB. I do not have one for eth4, which is what the UFB GPON router is connected to on the Genius.

Wounder how I get this into the WAN interface list...



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  #996230 28-Feb-2014 11:18
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forumusernz:
FlameBeard: Sorry, so just to make this clear, you want your device on your LAN to be reachable externally via telnet yeah?


Yes I am trying to access something on my LAN from the internet. I won't be using Telnet when I get it up and running, but I use it to test TCP channel connectivity. If I do not get the same results on the WAN as on the LAN then I assume the router is not correctly configured.

Sounddude: make sure you have set your WAN Interface to the correct one

I think its ppp0 for ADSL and eth4 for UFB.


I only have three options (working from memory as I am at work) ipoe_eth0/eth0.0, ppp0/ppp0 (think is the ADSL) and something to do with 3G/USB. I do not have one for eth4, which is what the UFB GPON router is connected to on the Genius.

Wounder how I get this into the WAN interface list...


Ok and you're obviously, via the port you have selected, are trying the external IP of your connection too? 




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  #996275 28-Feb-2014 12:00
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FlameBeard:
forumusernz:
FlameBeard: Sorry, so just to make this clear, you want your device on your LAN to be reachable externally via telnet yeah?


Yes I am trying to access something on my LAN from the internet. I won't be using Telnet when I get it up and running, but I use it to test TCP channel connectivity. If I do not get the same results on the WAN as on the LAN then I assume the router is not correctly configured.

Sounddude: make sure you have set your WAN Interface to the correct one

I think its ppp0 for ADSL and eth4 for UFB.


I only have three options (working from memory as I am at work) ipoe_eth0/eth0.0, ppp0/ppp0 (think is the ADSL) and something to do with 3G/USB. I do not have one for eth4, which is what the UFB GPON router is connected to on the Genius.

Wounder how I get this into the WAN interface list...


Ok and you're obviously, via the port you have selected, are trying the external IP of your connection too? 


If I understand you question, I am using telnet www.xxx.yyy.zzz 1723 where www.xxx.yyy.zzz is obtained by a 'whats my IP' Google search from within the LAN. This also corresponds with the WAN IP address on the Genius status page.

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  #997669 2-Mar-2014 18:02
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Nothing I try works. As a last resort I tried  the DMZ option, but this stops internet access and the phone with connect. I guess that this feature does not work on these devices (UFB). Is there a new version of firmware?

Has anyone else on UFB managed to make port forwarding work?

Really frustrating it should 'just work'...

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  #998248 3-Mar-2014 16:16
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I had our T3 guys look at this and they are confident the port forwarding looks correct, they suggested you check the firewall settings and particularly check the stateful packet inspection options to see if one is in play blocking the traffic.




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  #999218 5-Mar-2014 08:16
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FireEngine: I had our T3 guys look at this and they are confident the port forwarding looks correct, they suggested you check the firewall settings and particularly check the stateful packet inspection options to see if one is in play blocking the traffic.


Thanks FireEngine, I had not though to check the firewall for interference. I tried all levels of firewall settings, which seem to adjust the stateful packet inspection settings. I even turned it off for a shot period, but still doesn't work.

I could not find any firewall/routing logs, does the Genius have these?

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You settings look right, when compared to mine (see screen shot of mine). I use port forwarding on the genius (on ADSL not fiber) without any trouble. I also use DMZ without it interfering with browsing or the built in VOIP phone  - if I understood what you said correctly, there is no way DMZ should screw up the genius phone interface, unless there is something completely messed up in the genius settings else where.

Just to confirm firmware, mine is:

Build Time: 2011.07.08-21:38:2
Runtime Code Version: GeniusLite1100
Boot Code Version: 1.0.37-106.17

Screen shot of my working port forwarding:




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  #1023695 11-Apr-2014 22:39
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When you say you're trying from the outside, please elaborate. Port forwards can't be tested internally (without hairpin NAT). Best bet is a laptop tethered to a phone.




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  #1026424 16-Apr-2014 20:20
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Thanks guys for your reply, I have given up on this for the moment as I seem to have hit a brick wall (hence my delayed response)

@MadEngineer: I understand that I cannot test from within the LAN. When I say from the outside I mean from my work and GRC shields up. 

@Tripper: Thanks for confirming that someone actually has this working. And I think you have hit the nail on the head something to do with ADSL v's UFB. I am loathed to restore the router to factory defaults as the last time I did that it knackered the phone SIP settings and it took the help desk over a day to sort it out.

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  #1026497 16-Apr-2014 22:59
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Test with another port with an application/service that's more reliable to test, eg a browser and a web service. If that works adjust your settings to suit what you're trying to achieve.

I had port forwarding mostly working when I was using the genius but it can't be used for the likes of gre forwarding, according to upper levels of orcons support despite the device's advertised specs.

IMHO, swap the genius for a router of your choice and connect the genius onto one of the LAN ports on your alternative router with the vlan tag removed.




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