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hellonearthisman

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#21087 15-Apr-2008 15:03
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Slingshot forums has a thread about a new Referral rewards. They are setting up a system where, if you subscribe 5 new users to Slingshot that you will get a terabyte of data onto your cap.  This means a change to the datacap expiring system that all the isp's use. The Terabyte will expire after 12month's.

This could be start of the end to monthly data caps expiring.

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BobW
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  #123714 15-Apr-2008 16:36
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A terabyte in return for 5 customer referrals?  Really?

For comparison, xnet charge $1/GB for data, so a terabyte would cost $1000.  Given how much the ISPs complain about thin retail margins, there is no way that customer referrals are worth $200/customer.  I suppose the wholesale rate for data is less than $1/GB, but even so this seems like an excessively generous offer.

What's really going on here?

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  #123728 15-Apr-2008 17:30
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Whats really going on, is that like SMS plans (a la $10 text) someone has to jump out of the starting blocks first with each new "generation" of charging regimes....

Bring it on I say.

In 5 years time we will all have multi-terabyte caps with 12 month expiry - mark my words!!!







 
 
 
 


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  #123729 15-Apr-2008 17:33
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Slingshot sell data for different rates, depending on how much you buy.

3GB for $5
10GB for $10
30GB for $25
50GB for $40 (TB = $800 if got with 50GB blocks)

I think the price trend would  flow  onto bigger savings for bigger blocks.

I'm most excited about the chance that datablocks will no longer expire at the end of the month.

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#123735 15-Apr-2008 17:58
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ScottH from Slingshot confirmed this in a comment about 20min ago on my blog here:

http://mothership.co.nz/blog/index.php/2008/04/02/slingshot-give-away-1tb-of-data/

The release date is closer than first thought :)

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  #123743 15-Apr-2008 18:21
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WOW i just read that thread, if they go through with this then id be tempted to drop my cable connection and go dsl just for the data!

Without exagerating too much i prolly give advice about ISPs and alike on a weekly basis(although i prolly dont know half as much as most of you here) im the goto guy at my work when it comes to stuff like this so it wouldnt be hard to earn that terabye...and a year to use it, you couldnt ask for a better deal..

a terabyte...that wasnt even suggested by some random poster, that was from the slingshot fella himself.

hellonearthisman you should keep this thread up to date with what happens, like to see any other isp match this!

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  #123760 15-Apr-2008 18:48
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I like the non-expiry idea from month to month.
Even if you could buy your first "40GB for $50" then it was say $1.25 per GB (same price level as the data block) after that instead of the price jacking up to some quadrupled horrendous rate that will surprise you at bill time should you DARE exceed your cap which is a very quick way to lose customers.

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  #123771 15-Apr-2008 19:11
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tonyhughes: Whats really going on, is that like SMS plans (a la $10 text) someone has to jump out of the starting blocks first with each new "generation" of charging regimes....

Bring it on I say.

In 5 years time we will all have multi-terabyte caps with 12 month expiry - mark my words!!!


Given the non liner progression of data caps and technologies eager to utilise these growing caps so far thats hardly prophetic Tony ;)

The human brain is not wired to think exponentially, this is the reason why such seeming outlandish claims are generally poo-poo'ed then turn out to be quite correct.

 
 
 
 


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  #123775 15-Apr-2008 19:20
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Fraktul:
tonyhughes: Whats really going on, is that like SMS plans (a la $10 text) someone has to jump out of the starting blocks first with each new "generation" of charging regimes....

Bring it on I say.

In 5 years time we will all have multi-terabyte caps with 12 month expiry - mark my words!!!


Given the non liner progression of data caps and technologies eager to utilise these growing caps so far thats hardly prophetic Tony ;)

The human brain is not wired to think exponentially, this is the reason why such seeming outlandish claims are generally poo-poo'ed then turn out to be quite correct.

Yep... its nice to make predictions that initially can seem wild, but if you look back 5 years at data caps and pricing, dont look so mad after all.







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  #123810 15-Apr-2008 20:28
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tonyhughes: Yep... its nice to make predictions that initially can seem wild, but if you look back 5 years at data caps and pricing, dont look so mad after all.


Not really that wild a prediction.  When I first got "Jetstream" in 2002, it cost $70/month for 400 MB (in the days before upload/download speed limits).  Taking into account inflation, that would be about $80/month in 2008 dollars.  Now $80/month on, for example, xnet's FS/FS plan would buy 30 GB ($50 for the plan, and $30 for 30 GB of data).  That's 75 times more data for the same price, after 6 years.

Another 5 years at that sort of growth rate would make the cap equal to around 2 TB for $80/month (in 2008$).  It is always hazardous projecting exponential growth rates, but this prediction may well be plausible.

My query above about what's really going on reflects the fact that even if we get to that sort of price for data in 5 years, we're not anywhere near it yet.

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  #125227 21-Apr-2008 10:23
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Update time.

Scott has posted on the blog topic again to say that release date is this Wednesday, 23rd of April.  No update on the thread on Slingshot's forums, yet.


Hopefully this is the first step toward data blocks that don't expire.

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  #125236 21-Apr-2008 10:50
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hellonearthisman: This could be start of the end to monthly data caps expiring.


Kinect already have non-expiring data blocks :) Also if you dont use all your monthly allowance for the month it gets moved to the next month and added to that months allowance.

http://www.kinect.co.nz/Broadband.aspx?m=2

But yeah 5 referrals for a 1 TB is a good deal :)

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  #125239 21-Apr-2008 10:56
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RE: The Terabyte, we've got a launch date for you guys now - this Wednesday (23rd of April)

cheers :)




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  #125276 21-Apr-2008 12:51
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In addition to the 1 TB giveaway, this comment is apparently from Slingshot:

"we’ll be doing data blocks that dont expire soon too - we’ve called it data banking
it’s to go with our new broadband plans coming soon."
Source: http://mothership.co.nz/blog/index.php/2008/04/02/slingshot-give-away-1tb-of-data/#comment-172


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  #125367 21-Apr-2008 16:58
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Lurch:
hellonearthisman: This could be start of the end to monthly data caps expiring.


Kinect already have non-expiring data blocks :) Also if you dont use all your monthly allowance for the month it gets moved to the next month and added to that months allowance.

http://www.kinect.co.nz/Broadband.aspx?m=2

But yeah 5 referrals for a 1 TB is a good deal :)


Kinect.co.nz - this is not a good indication of a reliable service.

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10G for $14.95 is very costly, a TB = $1495 

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I dont have any issues accessing the website, anyway then theres the 3% on top of that if you sign up for a year. Plus it works out similar per month as most ISP's that I've checked.

Ah well all the best to Slingshot, I was just pointing out that there was another ISP already offering non expiring data blocks/un used cap transfers.

I look forward to seeing what Slingshot will offer with the new plans, if only they up'd there naked dsl to 10GB instead of 6GB.


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