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#322660 9-Sep-2025 15:51
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Has anyone else had issues with 2degrees billing/accounting recently?

 

So I've been with 2degrees pretty much from when they started and have held a business account with them with ~5 connections since 2014. A 4-5 months ago they stopped emailing invoices and when enquiring with them about it, they stated they no longer would support that and we would need to login to their portal to download them. I don't really want to give the login details to our accountant or to an AI Agent (since many other actions can be taken there) to do this or - pay for the accountant's time or AI agent to do this task. I would consider email as being industry standard for invoice delivery. I ended up just emailing their support team each month who then sent the invoice. Now they send invoices again - I am sure I was not the only one.....

 

The next issue, they couldn't find our payments. We have been paying them the same way, to the same account for many, many years. Then in June 2025 they couldn't find our payment for a few weeks, July and August same thing. After emails back and forth with online banking screenshots they finally managed to find them. They they kept adding "late payment fees" due to this.

 

Then to top it all off they emailed me yesterday to say services would be disconnected due to overdue invoices. I emailed them back with the 4-5 email threads I have had with them about these billing issues and they replied to disregard the disconnection email. About 30 minutes after their reply I got another disconnection email and 30 minutes after that the phone was disconnected.

 

Anyway end of rant....

 

 

 

I will be demanding at a minimum $1,000 account credit as compensation or else moving to another provider. It seems strange for a comapny to spend so much on advertising while alienating their existing clients - must be better economics to get new customers than retain long-standing existing ones I guess.....





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  #3412999 9-Sep-2025 15:57
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I started randomly receiving invoices for a postpaid mobile account... that I closed three years ago! Made a complaint and they sorted it - but how does that even happen?




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  #3413001 9-Sep-2025 16:11
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They can again send invoices by email. Accounts were moved from some old system to a new so maybe your payment references need updating to reflect your new account number?

 

 

 

 


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  #3413002 9-Sep-2025 16:12
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Just move ASAP. This is not the first unsolvable because of incompetency problem I have heard of recently.





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  #3413006 9-Sep-2025 16:23
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Their accounting systems are all over the place, they kept insisting I had a free static IP on my fiber connection, but couldn't give me an answer as to why I had a monthly charge for it. Did ask for a refund for those months, but never went anywhere :)

 

Then after they started having all sorts of routing issues etc I decided

 

 

was the best response.

 

We have a couple of prepay mobiles left on them and that's it.

 

Think they tried doing too much all at once, and its bitten them...

 

 

 





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  #3413025 9-Sep-2025 19:01
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Zeon:

 

snip....

 

The next issue, they couldn't find our payments. We have been paying them the same way, to the same account for many, many years. Then in June 2025 they couldn't find our payment for a few weeks, July and August same thing. After emails back and forth with online banking screenshots they finally managed to find them. They they kept adding "late payment fees" due to this.

 

....snip

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if others had/have this problem. When they changed to the new invoice layout (removing all of the information that used to be included), they changed my account number, and also the bank account number for payments. As the invoice had changed, while checking the details that were actually on the document, I found the account bank account number was different and so was my 2degrees account number. In trying to confirm there was no mistake with the new invoice, I couldn't find the new bank account anywhere in the usual places on their website, only the old bank account number was listed. I managed to find the account somewhere and it was associated with broadband (from memory). Rather amateurish.





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  #3413076 9-Sep-2025 19:28
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  #3413083 9-Sep-2025 20:39
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@Zeon DM me your details, I will get it looked at.





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  #3413233 10-Sep-2025 08:39
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I've just had a notification from the app for my latest bill. However, the app says I don't have permission to view the bill. Come on 2degrees, sort this nonsense out.





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  #3413237 10-Sep-2025 08:42
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Stu:

 

I've just had a notification from the app for my latest bill. However, the app says I don't have permission to view the bill. Come on 2degrees, sort this nonsense out.

 

 

If you are the account holder then that is a quick fix


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  #3413240 10-Sep-2025 08:44
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Of course I'm the account holder. I shouldn't have to do anything to fix this. I didn't break it.





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  #3413256 10-Sep-2025 09:16
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Stu:

 

Of course I'm the account holder. I shouldn't have to do anything to fix this. I didn't break it.

 

 

@Stu have you let 2degrees know of the issue?


 
 
 

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  #3413259 10-Sep-2025 09:25
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I don't sit around waiting to fix problems created by service providers. It's only just happened. Give a guy a chance. 





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  #3413262 10-Sep-2025 09:29
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Just shows a lack of QA and testing....

 

 





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  #3413295 10-Sep-2025 11:08
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FWIW, everyone, although I acknowledge these are frustrating issues, I will reveal a bit about the why.

 

For many years the 2degrees side of the business ran on the Oracle Siebel stack for mobile, with the fixed side running on Snap's bespoke platform ISPDB. With the Vocus merger we decided to move all billing & CRM into the Vocus bespoke platform (Tahi). Those of you with industry experience will understand moving billing stacks is no mean feat - to the point that most companies simply give up and don't do it, often after having spent hundreds of millions of dollars and years of engineering. At least one other operator here still runs multiple billing systems from the companies they acquired along the way because it's just Too Hard.

 

Anyway - we moved the last customer onto the Tahi platform a couple of months ago almost 3 years to the day from the merger, and are currently in the process of turning out the lights on the Oracle stack. This is an unprecedented outcome: we are not aware of any other operator that has successfully disentangled themselves from Siebel before, certainly not down this neck of the woods anyway. 

 

By and large it has been a comparatively uneventful process, which is exactly how you want it to be. But of course there are always exceptions for one reason or another. I am very sorry this has happened to you guys, but we will sort it out.

 

TL;DR it is not "incompetence" it is the tail end of a massive migration that few if any have ever completed before.





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  #3413296 10-Sep-2025 11:08
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Stu:

 

I don't sit around waiting to fix problems created by service providers. It's only just happened. Give a guy a chance. 

 

 

 

 

Feel free to DM me your details too





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