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# 38468 29-Jul-2009 21:09
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It seems 2talk have been forced to add an extra digit to their 028 89x xxxnumbers.

The additional digit is added after the 028 89 so existing numbers become 028 899 xxxx

I recieved the following email from 2talk tonight:

Dear Adam,

As of the 1 September 2009 your 2talk 02889 number will be updated to
include an extra digit. This is a regulatory requirement imposed by
the NZ number administration body. You will need to use this digit
when dialing your 02889 number from outside the 2talk network. However,
you do not need to change any of the settings on your phone or device
you use to access 2talk and can continue to use your existing 02889
number and password to access 2talk live.

For reference, the following changes will be made to your numbers:

  Number 028 89 34xx will change to 028 89 9 34xx

Please ensure you advise friends, family and colleagues of this change
so that they can continue to successfully call your 2talk 02889 number.
Until 1st September they should continue to use your existing number.

This change does not affect our 028 25 range of numbers or other 2talk
regional numbers. If you have any questions regarding this change
please contact 2talk support at support@2talk.co.nz

regards
the team @ 2talk

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  # 240323 29-Jul-2009 21:21
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Yup, ditto




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  # 240342 29-Jul-2009 22:17
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got the same thing, no big deal since I only got the 028's to use to dial in to trigger a callback, but then I found that it worked ok on the regular number even when set to divert so no need for them anymore - better then the new 028's that are 028+8 digits.




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  # 240441 30-Jul-2009 08:41
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About time they went to 7 digit. Will be interesting if other telcos translation tables will be updated so that people can call those numbers.. I can't really see much point of a 028 number as they cost the same as a cell fone to call. I swapped mine for a local number with 500 minutes.




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  # 241860 3-Aug-2009 16:29
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I don't get this... does this mean another mobile provider could add extra digits to our 6 digit phone numbers? 021 XXX XXX ?

I have my mobile number on business cards, signage ect.... it would cost alot if Vodafone potentially could do the same.



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  # 241885 3-Aug-2009 17:03
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It's possible, although unlikley this will happen. It's been pointed out that 2talk were breaching the NAD by allocating 6-digit numbers in this range from the get-go , and were forced to correct this.

Vodafone on the other hand are allowed to issue 6-digit numbers in their 021 range as specified in the NAD.

I can't see them doing this any time soon (And hope like hell it doesn't). I think there would be some angry people (Particularly businesses) if this were to happen.




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  # 241887 3-Aug-2009 17:04
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simon14: I don't get this... does this mean another mobile provider could add extra digits to our 6 digit phone numbers? 021 XXX XXX ?

I have my mobile number on business cards, signage ect.... it would cost alot if Vodafone potentially could do the same.


It's always possible but very unlikely.

2talk launched with 6 digit numbers that were in breach of the NAD regulations that specified 028 should be 7 digits. They were then granted an exemption to use these numbers until the end of August 2009 at which time they had to be moved to 7 digits.





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  # 241888 3-Aug-2009 17:06
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2talk have known about this for a while. I think they should have immediately started issuing 028+7 numbers to minimise the impact of changing the numbers now.




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  # 241950 3-Aug-2009 19:02
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They did, they have given out 028 + 8 for ages now.




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  # 241959 3-Aug-2009 19:23
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I got an 028 + 6 only a month or two ago




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  # 244105 8-Aug-2009 01:37
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Why should vf be given an exemption to have 6 digit numbers and not 2talk?

I see that as a bit unfair - even if it is for historical reasons.





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  # 244153 8-Aug-2009 10:33
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raytaylor: Why should vf be given an exemption to have 6 digit numbers and not 2talk?

I see that as a bit unfair - even if it is for historical reasons.


They don't have an exemption - that was the case from the beginning for most of their 021 range, and it has not changed.

The 028 range that 2talk were assigning 6 digit numbers, was actually already meant to be 7 digit - so they were in breach of NAD rules.




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Vodafone was assigned the 021 range before the introduction of the NAD, so they are not bound by NAD rules on that range. However, if 021 was assigned to another provider, they would be required to issue 10 (7) digit numbers.

Regarding an extra digit having to be added to 028 numbers, sorry about that, that was partially my doing. However, WxC and a couple of other international providers were refusing to route calls to 2talk because they were in breach of the NAD rules.

See here: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=65&topicid=14585&page_no=1#78114

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  # 248494 19-Aug-2009 09:04
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When did the NAD rules come in as Vodafone took over the 6 digit numbers from BellSouth..??




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  # 248505 19-Aug-2009 09:16
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old3eyes: When did the NAD rules come in as Vodafone took over the 6 digit numbers from BellSouth..??


May 2000. Two years after the BellSouth takeover.

The original parties to the NAD (who would have most likely already had code allocations made outside of the NAD, as is the case of Vodafone with 021) were:

CLEAR COMMUNICATIONS LIMITED
THE INTERNET GROUP LIMITED
NEWCALL COMMUNICATIONS LIMITED
SATURN COMMUNICATIONS LIMITED
TEAMTALK LIMITED
TELECOM NEW ZEALAND LIMITED
TELSTRA NEW ZEALAND LIMITED
VODAFONE NEW ZEALAND LIMITED
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  # 248621 19-Aug-2009 12:54
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Thanx..




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