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nzkiwiman

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#57135 3-Feb-2010 22:50
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So, 1st of Feb
Internet during peak times starts to feel a bit slow. I don't think much of it, although im struggling to get 100kb/sec from usenet groups (average in Jan was 600kb/sec)

2nd of Feb - You Tube SD is buffering, PDF downloads hovering at 50kb/sec from kmart, thewarehouse and Technet and usenet is still struggling to download anything at any speed over 160kb/sec

Tonight - much of the same.


During December and Jan, the internet was fast and fantastic. I was downloading 10-15 You Tube HD videos at average speeds of 80kb/sec each during peak times, usenet downloads were fast and general browsing was sweet. Now it might be a bit of a leap, but it feels like the free You Tube promo died and so Orcon took all the internet bandwith away, and im back to complaining about the speed of the connection.

Is it just me, or are other Orcon users feeling the same?

Note - I have no hard facts, its just a feeling.

Cheers

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  #295954 4-Feb-2010 09:34
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Orcon+ user... all good here.




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  #295991 4-Feb-2010 11:25
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It's just you, I'm getting 1MB/s+ from usenet and youtube doesn't buffer on HD videos.

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  #296220 4-Feb-2010 21:53
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I'm on Orcon+ in Glenfield, speed is back to last year speeds again. Ping is much worse too. Youtube is buffering again too.

Given up with the help desk now, I think it's easier to just change provider.



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  #296286 5-Feb-2010 06:58
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Kloar

Seems odd, especially since youtube is served from a local cache.

Can you show me your linestats please.

Are you using Orcons DNS servers?

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Hi Sounddude, here are my line stats, it's not the speed thats the problem, I know my line isn't good, but it's the ping that annoys me, It jumps to about 300ms to aus servers at peak times with a jitter of around 150ms making games unplayable when I should get a bing of 60 - 70ms like normal times.

ADSL2+
Maximum line rate: 4592 kbps (downstream) / 1108 kbps (upstream)
Noise margin: 7.2 dB (downstream) / 8.5 dB (upstream)
Line attenuation: 43.9 dB (downstream) / 24.8 dB (upstream)
Output power: 19.6 dBm (downstream) / 12.6 dBm (upstream)

I've sent off trace routes to the help desk, but they just think I'm complaining about the speed.

Thanks for your help.

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  #296644 6-Feb-2010 18:06
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Do you know what exchange you are connected to?

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  #296655 6-Feb-2010 19:14
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I am connected to the Glenfield exchange as far as I'm aware. I was told it could just be congestion at the exchange?

Also, I can't connect to the steam store and a few other sites (can still connect with opera turbo so the sites aren't down), help desk just reset my line and that was pretty much it, no change. :(

Thanks



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  #296709 7-Feb-2010 09:40
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I will check for congestion for you. On the Orcon+ network we try our best to achieve a non-congested network. If it is congested, we will be upgrading.

We will sort it, I promise :)


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  #296711 7-Feb-2010 09:49
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Ok, thank you for you help. Let me know if you need any more info, I'm happy to get it for you.

They need more people like you working there. :)

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  #297076 8-Feb-2010 15:13
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We have scheduled an upgrade of a handover link which was showing signs of congestion. This s due to be worked on, on the morning of the 16th.

Just to be clear. Your slowness was only happening at peak times, and the pings were not constant but spiked up to 300ms to AU?


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Hey, the slowness was only during peak times, same with the ping, this was to every where, including local servers/sites.

I still have the trace routes of the problem if you need them?

Oh, I have full web access today as well, including the steam store, so it's getting better.

Thanks for you help on the situation :)

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  #297175 8-Feb-2010 19:30
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yup post the traceroutes.

NZ recently had issues with Limelight networks in Australia, who host steam and some other important sites. We routed that via the US today.

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  #297183 8-Feb-2010 20:15
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Here they are, I haven't got ping results, and can't really get any till the problem happens again, if you need any more, just let me know. The random IP's are two servers that I play on most of the time.

Thanks

 

 

C:\Users\****>tracert 81.17.244.160


Tracing route to 244-160.colo.sta.blacknight.ie [81.17.244.160]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms sx763.dummy.porta.siemens.net [192.168.2.1]
2 16 ms 14 ms 15 ms lo1.ras1.nct.orcon.net.nz [60.234.8.201]
3 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms ge-0-0-4-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.5]
4 148 ms 14 ms 14 ms xe-1-0-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
5 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms ae3.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.142]
6 17 ms 16 ms 18 ms Gi10-0-0-401.GW1.AKL1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.16
7.33]
7 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge-0-0-0-0.gw1.akl2.asianetcom.net
[203.192.185.
45]
8 241 ms 203 ms 204 ms po1-1-0.gw3.lax1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.185.62]

9 225 ms 203 ms 204 ms te7-6.mpd01.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com
[154.54.11.
9]
10 225 ms 204 ms 203 ms te4-2.mpd02.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com
[154.54.6.1
89]
11 225 ms 203 ms 204 ms te4-4.mpd02.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com
[154.54.0.2
50]
12 226 ms 306 ms 306 ms te3-2.mpd02.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com
[154.54.5.5
4]
13 232 ms 297 ms 306 ms te9-3.mpd02.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com
[154.54.3.6
6]
14 225 ms 306 ms 306 ms 130.117.25.233
15 292 ms 292 ms 291 ms te7-1.ccr01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com
[130.117.0.
186]
16 308 ms 307 ms 307 ms te1-2.ccr01.dub01.atlas.cogentco.com
[130.117.0.
130]
17 334 ms 337 ms 335 ms 149.6.4.118
18 385 ms 408 ms 920 ms ge0-0-0.dr-r01.bk2.39122.as [78.153.192.34]
19 431 ms 408 ms 409 ms 192.70.ge0-0-3.dr-r02.bk2.39122.as
[78.153.192.7
0]
20 432 ms 408 ms 483 ms 244-160.colo.sta.blacknight.ie
[81.17.244.160]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\****>tracert 209.131.119.73

Tracing route to 209.131.119.73 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms sx763.dummy.porta.siemens.net [192.168.2.1]
2 16 ms 13 ms 17 ms lo1.ras1.nct.orcon.net.nz [60.234.8.201]
3 101 ms 14 ms 85 ms ge-0-0-4-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.1]
4 16 ms 14 ms 13 ms xe-1-0-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.14]
5 18 ms 18 ms 15 ms ae3.bdr2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.146]
6 17 ms 14 ms 18 ms xe-1-1-0-401.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz
[203.192.167.
34]
7 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms Gi10-0-0-401.GW1.AKL1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.16
7.33]
8 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms ge-0-0-0-0.gw1.akl2.asianetcom.net
[203.192.185.
45]
9 175 ms 203 ms 204 ms po1-1-0.gw3.lax1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.185.62]

10 225 ms 203 ms 204 ms ge-11-1-5.mpr1.lax12.us.above.net
[64.125.12.217
]
11 206 ms 204 ms 203 ms xe-1-2-0.er1.lax9.us.above.net
[64.125.31.190]
12 205 ms 204 ms 203 ms ge-2-0-0.mpr3.lax9.us.above.net
[64.125.31.90]
13 207 ms 203 ms 204 ms so-0-1-0.mpr3.iah1.us.above.net
[64.125.25.46]
14 310 ms * 259 ms so-2-0-0.mpr1.dca2.us.above.net
[64.125.29.38]
15 486 ms 408 ms 408 ms so-0-1-0.mpr1.lga5.us.above.net
[64.125.26.98]
16 429 ms 413 ms 404 ms xe-0-1-0.er1.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.27.61]
17 226 ms 306 ms 306 ms 64.124.161.46.allocated.above.net
[64.124.161.46
]
18 247 ms 306 ms 306 ms g8.4-term6.dgram.net [69.60.0.81]
19 226 ms 306 ms 306 ms 10g1.1-term6.dgram.net [69.60.0.74]
20 226 ms 306 ms 306 ms 69.60.17.66
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

C:\Users\****>tracert 209.131.119.73

Tracing route to 209.131.119.73 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms sx763.dummy.porta.siemens.net [192.168.2.1]
2 15 ms 30 ms 20 ms lo1.ras1.nct.orcon.net.nz [60.234.8.201]
3 36 ms 46 ms 15 ms ge-0-0-4-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.1]
4 15 ms 13 ms 13 ms xe-1-0-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.14]
5 17 ms 15 ms 15 ms ae3.bdr2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.146]
6 15 ms 43 ms 16 ms xe-1-1-0-401.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz
[203.192.167.
34]
7 19 ms 15 ms 16 ms Gi10-0-0-401.GW1.AKL1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.16
7.33]
8 19 ms 16 ms 15 ms ge-0-0-0-0.gw1.akl2.asianetcom.net
[203.192.185.
45]
9 208 ms 203 ms 204 ms po1-1-0.gw3.lax1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.185.62]

10 224 ms 203 ms 204 ms ge-11-1-5.mpr1.lax12.us.above.net
[64.125.12.217
]
11 142 ms 184 ms 202 ms xe-1-2-0.er1.lax9.us.above.net
[64.125.31.190]
12 223 ms 204 ms 204 ms ge-2-0-0.mpr3.lax9.us.above.net
[64.125.31.90]
13 225 ms 204 ms 204 ms so-0-1-0.mpr3.iah1.us.above.net
[64.125.25.46]
14 225 ms 204 ms 200 ms so-2-0-0.mpr1.dca2.us.above.net
[64.125.29.38]
15 242 ms 241 ms 241 ms so-0-1-0.mpr1.lga5.us.above.net
[64.125.26.98]
16 239 ms 299 ms 239 ms xe-0-1-0.er1.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.27.61]
17 204 ms 202 ms 202 ms 64.124.161.46.allocated.above.net
[64.124.161.46
]
18 202 ms 205 ms 203 ms g8.4-term6.dgram.net [69.60.0.81]
19 203 ms 203 ms 204 ms 10g1.1-term6.dgram.net [69.60.0.74]
20 204 ms 204 ms 203 ms 69.60.17.66
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

C:\Users\****>tracert 209.131.119.85

Tracing route to 209.131.119.85 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 2 ms 1 ms <1 ms sx763.dummy.porta.siemens.net [192.168.2.1]
2 18 ms 15 ms 14 ms lo1.ras1.nct.orcon.net.nz [60.234.8.201]
3 15 ms 13 ms 15 ms ge-0-0-4-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.1]
4 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms xe-1-0-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.14]
5 17 ms 52 ms 14 ms ae3.bdr2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.146]
6 16 ms 15 ms 14 ms xe-1-1-0-401.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz
[203.192.167.
34]
7 18 ms 15 ms 15 ms Gi10-0-0-401.GW1.AKL1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.16
7.33]
8 17 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge-0-0-0-0.gw1.akl2.asianetcom.net
[203.192.185.
45]
9 179 ms 203 ms 204 ms po1-1-0.gw3.lax1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.185.62]

10 143 ms 176 ms 210 ms ge-11-1-5.mpr1.lax12.us.above.net
[64.125.12.217
]
11 213 ms 195 ms 187 ms xe-1-2-0.er1.lax9.us.above.net
[64.125.31.190]
12 142 ms 201 ms 204 ms ge-2-0-0.mpr3.lax9.us.above.net
[64.125.31.90]
13 224 ms 213 ms 195 ms so-0-1-0.mpr3.iah1.us.above.net
[64.125.25.46]
14 215 ms 213 ms 203 ms so-2-0-0.mpr1.dca2.us.above.net
[64.125.29.38]
15 327 ms 240 ms 239 ms so-0-1-0.mpr1.lga5.us.above.net
[64.125.26.98]
16 291 ms 306 ms 306 ms xe-0-1-0.er1.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.27.61]
17 225 ms 306 ms 306 ms 64.124.161.46.allocated.above.net
[64.124.161.46
]
18 224 ms 306 ms 306 ms g8.4-term6.dgram.net [69.60.0.81]
19 225 ms 306 ms 204 ms 10g1.1-term6.dgram.net [69.60.0.74]
20 223 ms 261 ms 249 ms 69.60.17.66
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.


C:\Users\****>tracert www.nzdsl.co.nz

Tracing route to www.nzdsl.co.nz [60.234.76.50]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms sx763.dummy.porta.siemens.net [192.168.2.1]
2 92 ms 101 ms 19 ms lo1.ras1.nct.orcon.net.nz [60.234.8.201]
3 19 ms 15 ms 14 ms ge-0-0-4-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.5]
4 15 ms 15 ms 14 ms xe-1-0-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
5 16 ms 15 ms 14 ms gi-5-1.dsw1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.26]
6 18 ms 13 ms 13 ms 60.234.76.50

Trace complete.

C:\Users\****>tracert www.trademe.co.nz

Tracing route to www.trademe.co.nz [202.162.72.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 91 ms 1 ms 4 ms sx763.dummy.porta.siemens.net [192.168.2.1]
2 17 ms 16 ms 14 ms lo1.ras1.nct.orcon.net.nz [60.234.8.201]
3 16 ms 21 ms 14 ms ge-0-0-4-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.5]
4 17 ms 16 ms 14 ms ge-0-3-0-0.cre2.sky.orcon.net.nz
[121.98.9.78]
5 26 ms 25 ms 24 ms ge-0-0-0-222.cre2.wgt.orcon.net.nz
[121.98.9.54]

6 26 ms 25 ms 26 ms trademe.wix.net.nz [202.7.1.67]
7 27 ms 24 ms 25 ms www.trademe.co.nz [202.162.72.2]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\****>tracert www.google.com

Tracing route to www.l.google.com [66.102.7.104]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms sx763.dummy.porta.siemens.net [192.168.2.1]
2 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms lo1.ras1.nct.orcon.net.nz [60.234.8.201]
3 16 ms 14 ms 14 ms ge-0-0-4-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.1]
4 17 ms 16 ms 16 ms ae3.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.142]
5 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms orcon-int.tkbr10.global-gateway.net.nz
[203.96.6
6.98]
6 17 ms 20 ms 14 ms g2-0-1-118.tkbr10.global-gateway.net.nz
[203.96.
66.97]
7 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms xe7-0-0-2.tkbr9.global-gateway.net.nz
[203.96.12
0.221]
8 141 ms 141 ms 140 ms so0-3-2.labr5.global-gateway.net.nz
[202.50.232.
189]
9 141 ms 141 ms 141 ms so0-0-1.lebr6.global-gateway.net.nz
[202.50.232.
98]
10 148 ms 140 ms 140 ms 72.14.196.221
11 149 ms 199 ms 205 ms 216.239.46.180
12 233 ms 203 ms 203 ms 72.14.239.246
13 230 ms 203 ms 203 ms lax04s01-in-f104.1e100.net [66.102.7.104]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\****>tracert www.theregister.co.uk

Tracing route to www.theregister.co.uk [212.100.234.54]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms sx763.dummy.porta.siemens.net [192.168.2.1]
2 16 ms 14 ms 14 ms lo1.ras1.nct.orcon.net.nz [60.234.8.201]
3 16 ms 14 ms 15 ms ge-0-0-4-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.5]
4 15 ms 13 ms 17 ms xe-1-0-0.cre1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.13]
5 17 ms 15 ms 15 ms ae3.bdr1.nct.orcon.net.nz [121.98.9.142]
6 15 ms 103 ms 15 ms Gi10-0-0-401.GW1.AKL1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.16
7.33]
7 16 ms 104 ms 14 ms ge-0-0-0-0.gw1.akl2.asianetcom.net
[203.192.185.
45]
8 223 ms 214 ms 194 ms po1-1-0.gw3.lax1.asianetcom.net
[203.192.185.62]

9 213 ms 204 ms 204 ms ge-11-1-5.mpr1.lax12.us.above.net
[64.125.12.217
]
10 234 ms 203 ms 203 ms xe-1-2-0.er1.lax9.us.above.net
[64.125.31.190]
11 224 ms 204 ms 203 ms xe-0-2-0.er1.iah1.us.above.net
[64.125.26.121]
12 206 ms 203 ms 204 ms ge-1-2-0.mpr3.iah1.us.above.net [64.125.28.6]
13 225 ms 322 ms 307 ms ge-0-3-0.mpr1.dca2.us.above.net
[64.125.25.113]

14 313 ms 304 ms 306 ms so-1-1-0.mpr1.lhr2.uk.above.net
[64.125.31.185]

15 328 ms 306 ms 306 ms 213-152-254-148.available.above.net
[213.152.254
.148]
16 513 ms 306 ms 408 ms vl901.core1.lon.rackspace.net [83.138.138.35]
17 308 ms 306 ms 306 ms vl911.core6a.lon3.rackspace.net
[92.52.76.204]
18 328 ms 306 ms 306 ms aggr321a-2-core6a.lon3.rackspace.net
[92.52.77.1
9]
19 305 ms 306 ms 306 ms 212.100.234.54

Trace complete.

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  #297521 9-Feb-2010 22:01
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9th Feb - update from Apple is availble.
Off I truddle to the apple site and start downloading iTunes 9.03 for 64 bit.

94MB @ .... 20kb/sec
Cancel and try again

94MB @ .... 22kb/sec
Grr

Reboot

Try again
94MB @ ... 20kb/sec
$#&^&

WHAT THE $#(% ORCON!
I'm so glad that I changed from a 256k plan to a FS/FS plan so I can download at .. SLOWER than a 256k plan.

And this from Apple. A site that has bandwidth to spare by the bucketload.


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nzkiwiman: Show me your linestats please.

I am getting good speeds from apple updates.

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