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#58739 18-Mar-2010 10:35
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Hi Slingshot,

May I enquire as to when Slingshot would be releasing these options? My area is already upgraded with a VDSL2+ card and I would like to know when my connection would utilize this ability.

Thanks guys

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  #308650 18-Mar-2010 10:38
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My understanding is that wholesale VDSL services from Telecom (assuming you're on a wholesale plan with Slingshot) are due to hit the market in the 4th Quarter of this year.

You will need to be aware that a master VDSL filter is compulsary, there are no DIY plugin in filter options like ADSL.

 
 
 

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  #308818 18-Mar-2010 16:07
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sbiddle: You will need to be aware that a master VDSL filter is compulsary, there are no DIY plugin in filter options like ADSL.

Is that filter different from a master ADSL filter?




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  #308975 19-Mar-2010 00:18
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Newer model of the same thing, if you installed a master splitter within the last year or so it probably supports VDSL2+. If you have one from ages ago you will need to upgrade to the newer version.



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  #308990 19-Mar-2010 07:39
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sbiddle: My understanding is that wholesale VDSL services from Telecom (assuming you're on a wholesale plan with Slingshot) are due to hit the market in the 4th Quarter of this year.

You will need to be aware that a master VDSL filter is compulsary, there are no DIY plugin in filter options like ADSL.


Also, the effective usable range is about 800m from DSLAM port to your filter... it might take 150m of copper to get out of the exchange in the first place!




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  #309018 19-Mar-2010 09:16
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good news vdsl2+ coming to hamilton sooon check this link out for more info
http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/telecommunications/callplus-unbundles-hamilton-offers-data-banking




 


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  #309553 21-Mar-2010 17:30
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Hmm, I live in apartment complex and I have naked DSL and no filter on my equipment, once this goes in, will I be able to get vdsl2? (After getting a vdsl2 modem, obviously)

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  #309565 21-Mar-2010 17:56
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kyhwana2: Hmm, I live in apartment complex and I have naked DSL and no filter on my equipment, once this goes in, will I be able to get vdsl2? (After getting a vdsl2 modem, obviously)

No. You won't have the VDSL filter.

However, if you get the filter and the modem, you may be able to get it.

Check the Telecom wholesale map.




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  #309592 21-Mar-2010 19:44
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So just to clarify - naked dsl users wont need to get a filter? I pressume a vdsl filter works on the same principle as a adsl one, except it blocks a wider frequency range from going to your phone?

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  #309595 21-Mar-2010 19:46
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what does the filter do differently to an adsl one that makes it required for use on naked service?

Also, what routers are available at this stage for it? I will probably be too far from the cabinet when they finally get around to putting one in to ever be able to get vdsl so it really is a moot point to me :(




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  #309613 21-Mar-2010 20:30
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nickb800: So just to clarify - naked dsl users wont need to get a filter? I pressume a vdsl filter works on the same principle as a adsl one, except it blocks a wider frequency range from going to your phone?

I wouldn't be surprised if Telecom forced you to have the filter in case someone wanted to reconnect to POTS.




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  #309617 21-Mar-2010 20:35
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Detruire:
I wouldn't be surprised if Telecom forced you to have the filter in case someone wanted to reconnect to POTS.


considering how they currently force you to buy a PSTN line with any of their retail products you may be not too far from the truth.




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  #310309 23-Mar-2010 17:16
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As posted elsewhere, technically you dont need a VDSL2 filter if you go naked, however you would be wanting to ensure your line from the demarc is clean of stubs to the modem.

As I understand it Telecom want you to have a filter fitted, however at the end of the day this is simply a way of ensuring the wiring has been checked as suitable and no stubs are inline.

VDSL2 is significantly more demanding on line condition that you would be well advised to have the line checked and a filter installed simply so the change of providers to and from Naked and nonNaked services can be done without too much hassle.

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  #310335 23-Mar-2010 18:38
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I have a wire coming in with a socket on the end of it. Thats the extent of it. Not paying for them to look at or install anything if vdsl ever becomes available. If they want an excessive fee to put in a redundant filter I would be looking at other options.




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  #310348 23-Mar-2010 19:17
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I have a wire coming in with a socket on the end of it. Thats the extent of it. Not paying for them to look at or install anything if vdsl ever becomes available. If they want an excessive fee to put in a redundant filter I would be looking at other options.


Of course not, doubt anyone will make you do nothing they dont want you to and you know what you are looking at and the implications, but the reality of its is that 90% of homes have rubbish wiring that will stop an 8MHz signal dead in its tracks. Daily I see pretty normal house wiring that prevents a 2MHz ADSL2+ service from working anywhere like 50% of its ability.

It would be foolish for Telecom to allow mass self installs of VDSL2, the failure rate without the wiring being sorted would make it a nightmare for them.

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  #310354 23-Mar-2010 19:38
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I said that about ADSL and everyone was all going on about it working in a lot of cases etc.

What telecom need to do IMO is replace their poor excuse of a demarc with a propper one and not care past it. The current crap with them replacing internal wiring etc is nuts IMO.




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