The Next Big Thing plans and Cabinetisation

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#60985 6-May-2010 20:10

Slingshots Next Big Thing plans are run over Vodafone's Red Network as most of us know.

I've heard that people on Vodafone's Red Network and being shifted off their network and onto the old network in places that a new cabinet has been built. This is because Vodafone can't offer it's services from a cabinet, only from an exchange.

My area is due to have a cabinet in place by Oct this year.... does that mean i will be moved from my cheaper NBT plan and onto the standard Slingshot plans?

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#327525 6-May-2010 20:17

It's highly likely you'll suffer from midpoint injection issues if you don't move back to a wholesale plan.

I have no idea if Vodafone or Slingshot are actively moving customers or they're simply moving back when they notice their performance drop.

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#327534 6-May-2010 20:24

sbiddle: It's highly likely you'll suffer from midpoint injection issues if you don't move back to a wholesale plan.

I have no idea if Vodafone or Slingshot are actively moving customers or they're simply moving back when they notice their performance drop.

From what I've heard, customers on the red network are being moved off once their area is being cabinetised.

Ashame for Vodafone in particular and the customer as people on the red network get $10 off each month.

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#327536 6-May-2010 20:26

I posted my exact thoughts on this earlier

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=49&topicid=60867&page_no=4

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#327581 7-May-2010 00:00

Cabinets themselves aren't really the problem but rather the backhaul pricing in the ComCom sub loop unbundling determination. If I recall correctly the cost is split per provider in the cabinet regardless of how many customers they have.

So a cabinet is supposed to serve about ~300 customers, so in a hypothetical situation lets say 250/300 connection are Telecom Wholesale and 50/300 are Vodafone.

Vodafone has to pay 50% of the backhaul cost rather than the ~16% (which is proportional to the number of customers they have in that cabinet).

I think Vodafone and/or Orcon and/or Telstra would be installing gear in some cabinets right now if not for the backhaul pricing issue.

That's how I understand it, please correct me if I'm wrong.