Calling Cards and 2Degrees

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#61953 26-May-2010 15:49

My wife's considering 2Degrees again as a low volume user who uses a moderate amount of data, now that the 50MB pack has been introduced.

She's American, and calls the US a lot. On Vodafone, she uses a calling card service called V8, which I think is run by Compass, and that gives her good rates back to the US.

Are there similar calling card services compatible with 2Degrees? I realise she could use the V8 800 number, but this is more expensive.

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#335350 27-May-2010 03:17

i'm not sure how much you pay with V8 but as long as you have toped up your 2degrees account in the last 30 days you can call USA landlines for 22c per min without having to dial some calling card number first.

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#335352 27-May-2010 04:45

It's only 3.9c on the calling card vs 22c on 2degrees.

To the OP, I don't think there's an equivalent calling card on 2degrees.

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#335355 27-May-2010 07:12

jmosen: My wife's considering 2Degrees again as a low volume user who uses a moderate amount of data, now that the 50MB pack has been introduced.

She's American, and calls the US a lot. On Vodafone, she uses a calling card service called V8, which I think is run by Compass, and that gives her good rates back to the US.

Are there similar calling card services compatible with 2Degrees? I realise she could use the V8 800 number, but this is more expensive.

At the moment most "unusual" number ranges are not really supported. But that's mainly due the long tail effect - there are a lot of them, and no particular one gets a lot of interest. As you'll probaby appreciate, we've been looking at higher priority things. :-)

However, if this is something that's important to you (or anyone else for that matter) then I will raise it with the right people to make sure all the commercials are in place, and if they are, it's not hard to fix it technically.

There are some classes of service we're unlikely to ever support though: these ones have uncertain wholesale charging and are billed on a monthly basis, making it next to impossible for us to rate in realtime.

Anyway, I will see, but I cannot promise anything.

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#335356 27-May-2010 07:14

She can call the US for 3.9 cents per minute with V8, so yes this is what's stopping her from using 2Degrees at this point.

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#335361 27-May-2010 07:49

The V8 card is an interesting one Salty - it in effect offers calling from Vodafone for dirt cheap prices with no mobile surcharge. There is also a card available that offers the similar rates from Telecom.

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#335364 27-May-2010 08:04

sbiddle: The V8 card is an interesting one Salty - it in effect offers calling from Vodafone for dirt cheap prices with no mobile surcharge. There is also a card available that offers the similar rates from Telecom.

Yeah, from a wholesale perspective it will be the same as an 0800/0508 call most likely. In other words, instead of Vodafone paying Compass to terminate the call, Compass pays Vodafone.

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#335402 27-May-2010 10:23

I don't understand, how does Compass make any money when the MTR rates are way about 3.9c?

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#335409 27-May-2010 10:46

sbiddle: The V8 card is an interesting one Salty - it in effect offers calling from Vodafone for dirt cheap prices with no mobile surcharge. There is also a card available that offers the similar rates from Telecom.

@sbiddle - what is the name of the telecom card you mentioned?

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#335430 27-May-2010 11:23

Delorean:
sbiddle: The V8 card is an interesting one Salty - it in effect offers calling from Vodafone for dirt cheap prices with no mobile surcharge. There is also a card available that offers the similar rates from Telecom.

@sbiddle - what is the name of the telecom card you mentioned?

You can use Yabba cards on telecom mobiles without a surcharge

Edit: to call overseas - calls within NZ will incur a surcharge

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#335445 27-May-2010 12:04

Delorean:
sbiddle: The V8 card is an interesting one Salty - it in effect offers calling from Vodafone for dirt cheap prices with no mobile surcharge. There is also a card available that offers the similar rates from Telecom.

@sbiddle - what is the name of the telecom card you mentioned?

I'm not sure of the name of it. There are a number of such cards in the market, Super Buzz also has one which attracts no surcharge from Vodafone and offers calls typiclaly under 5c per minute also.

I'm interested to know exactly what Vodafone and Telecom get out of this. There is no reason for them needing to offer the service and it does raise lots of questions and shows how totally inept the Commerce Commission are. If Talk is anti competitive surely Vodafone and Telecom allowing cheap interconnects with the single provision that they don't allow termination of calls to NZ number ranges for less than Vodafone and Telecom mobile plans should be raising eyebrows.