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Topic # 62408 6-Jun-2010 11:11
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Torrents run fine during the day but during our free time most torrent trackers are getting the connection closed by peer error. A friend of mine who is also with SlingShot is having this problem as well. Anyone  else experiencing this problem?

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  Reply # 338752 6-Jun-2010 11:55
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animebuster: Torrents run fine during the day but during our free time most torrent trackers are getting the connection closed by peer error. A friend of mine who is also with SlingShot is having this problem as well. Anyone  else experiencing this problem?


Google torrents and traffic shaping.

You'll get some hints on how to try to avoid ISP methods of restricting your speed and get what you want FAST! 

Bear in mind they are only doing this so people like you don't choke the net with your selfishness. :-)  

I just let the torrent run overnight and its always there in the morning.  You could try that. LOL!

The ISP may just be blocking access to the most popular tracker IP addresses.

Try looking into DHT torrent methods....every PC in the network is a de facto tracker. There is no one tracker IP to block. It's the future of peer to peer. The body has no head,  so it can't be cut off. 

 




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  Reply # 338830 6-Jun-2010 17:35
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I have not noticed this with the torrents I've been getting, the Slingshot Torrent caching has been working nicely during the free data periods, getting my full line speed on cached torrents and on non cached I have been getting normal torrent speeds.



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  Reply # 338831 6-Jun-2010 17:44
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hellonearthisman: I have not noticed this with the torrents I've been getting, the Slingshot Torrent caching has been working nicely during the free data periods, getting my full line speed on cached torrents and on non cached I have been getting normal torrent speeds.


Sorry but What do you mean by cached torrents?

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  Reply # 338837 6-Jun-2010 18:58
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Slingshot caches some torrents, that means they have a copy of the torrent (99.7% of a torrent) on their servers, so when you request a torrent this is in their cache then you get it at full speed. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=81&topicid=42304&page_no=1#262109



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  Reply # 339155 7-Jun-2010 20:42
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hellonearthisman: Slingshot caches some torrents, that means they have a copy of the torrent (99.7% of a torrent) on their servers, so when you request a torrent this is in their cache then you get it at full speed. http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=81&topicid=42304&page_no=1#262109


Wow awesome! :D The problem seems to of gone :) for a temporary time or long term I am not sure Lets hope its long term :D

Thanks!

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  Reply # 339207 8-Jun-2010 03:02
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2:55am and I seem to be getting the problem you were saying...I have torrents running on 2 machines both of which are showing red rather than blue with all trackers saying "Connection closed by peer." It's a pain as some sites don't use DHT. Didn't have this problem last night.... On a side note, would be keen to try downloading some things that people know for sure are definately on the cached server.

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  Reply # 339294 8-Jun-2010 10:55
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mattie47: On a side note, would be keen to try downloading some things that people know for sure are definately on the cached server.


Ignore that...Added several "popular" torrents and saw them connect to a 119.x.x.x call plus IP and saw speeds going up to 1MB/s =)



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  Reply # 339489 8-Jun-2010 18:55
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mattie47: 2:55am and I seem to be getting the problem you were saying...I have torrents running on 2 machines both of which are showing red rather than blue with all trackers saying "Connection closed by peer." It's a pain as some sites don't use DHT. Didn't have this problem last night.... On a side note, would be keen to try downloading some things that people know for sure are definately on the cached server.


The problem is back for me :( What I find helps is if you have alot of torrents you want to get, Set them all up to download and some will Manage. Because each time different torrents are getting the error and different ones run lol.

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  Reply # 339632 9-Jun-2010 00:44
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 animebuster:
mattie47: 2:55am and I seem to be getting the problem you were saying...I have torrents running on 2 machines both of which are showing red rather than blue with all trackers saying "Connection closed by peer." It's a pain as some sites don't use DHT. Didn't have this problem last night.... On a side note, would be keen to try downloading some things that people know for sure are definately on the cached server.


The problem is back for me :( What I find helps is if you have alot of torrents you want to get, Set them all up to download and some will Manage. Because each time different torrents are getting the error and different ones run lol.


Does the torrent software you are using have a maximum number of simultaneous downloads allowed?




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  Reply # 339642 9-Jun-2010 02:05
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Does the torrent software you are using have a maximum number of simultaneous downloads allowed?


Configured to allow a lot more torrents than what is currently in the list to download. Okay so was just downloading a file, tracker reported scrape ok. It's just hit 2am and now says "Connection closed by peer"

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  Reply # 339649 9-Jun-2010 03:01
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Yes, this is a pain. If you stop all transfers it will allow updates, but I still lose a lot of upload credit if I have the tracker updates fail.

Seems to be http user agent based since you cant even download rss or torrents in utorrent when slingshot are playing their games.

a local socks proxy to strip the user agent header worked for me, then I started to ssh tunnel out for it instead and that works too except slingshot keep killing the ssh connection with great regularity.

disabling uTP in utorrent will help a lot as it seems they dont limit the UDP traffic, just use that as a reason to choke everything else even when downloading well below line speed, but that could be the QOS in my router doing something to make UDP have higher priority than TCP.

I tried putting everything thru the socks to ssh but then the ssh connection was killed within seconds of transfers starting.

Really this crazy crap that they pull is inexcusable but they just trot out the same old excuse that they cant help because that would be condoning copyright infringement.




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  Reply # 339671 9-Jun-2010 07:38
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mattie47:

Does the torrent software you are using have a maximum number of simultaneous downloads allowed?


Configured to allow a lot more torrents than what is currently in the list to download. Okay so was just downloading a file, tracker reported scrape ok. It's just hit 2am and now says "Connection closed by peer"


Same here, Mines configured to run alot of torrents at once. Torrents work fine during normal times but then give that error only during off-peak/free times


richms: Yes, this is a pain. If you stop all transfers it will allow updates, but I still lose a lot of upload credit if I have the tracker updates fail.

Seems to be http user agent based since you cant even download rss or torrents in utorrent when slingshot are playing their games.

a local socks proxy to strip the user agent header worked for me, then I started to ssh tunnel out for it instead and that works too except slingshot keep killing the ssh connection with great regularity.

disabling uTP in utorrent will help a lot as it seems they dont limit the UDP traffic, just use that as a reason to choke everything else even when downloading well below line speed, but that could be the QOS in my router doing something to make UDP have higher priority than TCP.

I tried putting everything thru the socks to ssh but then the ssh connection was killed within seconds of transfers starting.

Really this crazy crap that they pull is inexcusable but they just trot out the same old excuse that they cant help because that would be condoning copyright infringement.


Where is the option to disable uTP? I've looked all through the options in Utorrent and I cant seem to find it.

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  Reply # 340008 9-Jun-2010 23:26
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animebuster:

Where is the option to disable uTP? I've looked all through the options in Utorrent and I cant seem to find it.


in advanced change bt.transp_disposition - thats a bitmapped field for the various protocols allowed 5 will make it tcp only, 10 will be uTP and tcp, 15 will be both.

http://www.tmsnetwork.org/blog/%C2%B5torrent-utorrent-bttranspdisposition-values-explained says more about it, no change when I tried it with or without 16 - new uTP header, still makes everything else slow to a standstill while only getting 70-80kB/sec.




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  Reply # 340344 10-Jun-2010 18:16
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richms:
animebuster:

Where is the option to disable uTP? I've looked all through the options in Utorrent and I cant seem to find it.


in advanced change bt.transp_disposition - thats a bitmapped field for the various protocols allowed 5 will make it tcp only, 10 will be uTP and tcp, 15 will be both.

http://www.tmsnetwork.org/blog/%C2%B5torrent-utorrent-bttranspdisposition-values-explained says more about it, no change when I tried it with or without 16 - new uTP header, still makes everything else slow to a standstill while only getting 70-80kB/sec.


Ah ok thanks. I'll try it tonight and see how my torrents go.



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  Reply # 340835 11-Jun-2010 23:27
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richms:
animebuster:

Where is the option to disable uTP? I've looked all through the options in Utorrent and I cant seem to find it.


in advanced change bt.transp_disposition - thats a bitmapped field for the various protocols allowed 5 will make it tcp only, 10 will be uTP and tcp, 15 will be both.

http://www.tmsnetwork.org/blog/%C2%B5torrent-utorrent-bttranspdisposition-values-explained says more about it, no change when I tried it with or without 16 - new uTP header, still makes everything else slow to a standstill while only getting 70-80kB/sec.


Thanks. Yeah no change for me either :( oh well I guess we'll just have to deal with it.

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