Cost less to ring China/India than to ring my friends in NZ

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kaljames79

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#64387 14-Jul-2010 15:34

Everyone100 $30

China120 $10

India120 $10

This just may be me but why is this so? it just doenst make any sense to me at all; why on earth does it cost less to call China and India for more minutes than it does to call my friends in New Zealand?
Surely it would cost MORE to talk to my friends in China and India than my friends right here in NZ?

30cpm vs 8.3cpm wtf??

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#351441 14-Jul-2010 15:35

Maybe your friends could move to China?

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#351445 14-Jul-2010 15:40

I suppose this is where we mention the dreaded MTR, now isn't it?

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#351453 14-Jul-2010 16:04

SaltyNZ: I suppose this is where we mention the dreaded MTR, now isn't it?

Yes and this is where I jump in boots and all and say "yes but the calls to India and China exclude calls to mobiles".

Fortunately I looked first and see that the price INCLUDES calls to mobiles in China and India.

It looks like a good deal, now I just need to get my mates to move overseas

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#351487 14-Jul-2010 17:20

There was a discussion in here on this a couple of weeks ago which explained it all very well. Remember - search is your friend.

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#351515 14-Jul-2010 18:30

My understanding is most mobile operators in China still use MPP (mobile party pays) rather than the CPP (calling party pays) that we use here in NZ. This means there is no MTR because the cost of the inbound call is paid for either directly or indirectly by the mobile user.

I believe most Indian providers now use CPP after moving from MPP, but termination rates are exceptionally low when convereted from rupees to even the $NZ

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#351774 15-Jul-2010 10:44

I agree it does seem odd that we can offer these calls cheaper than local calls but there are a number of reasons why we can do it. First and foremost though is Mobile Termination Rates. They average around 1700% higher in New Zealand than in India and China so it is much, much cheaper for us to deliver a call to Calcutta than it is to a Telecom Mobile in Christchurch.
You'll all know that the Commerce Commission and Government have been looking at this issue for some time and hopefully we will have resolution soon so those fees will come down and 2degrees can offer better prices for local calls as well as international.

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#351845 15-Jul-2010 13:09

It's pretty crafty to release all the calling plans at the same time, clearly shows the effect of the MTRs in new zealand.

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#351971 15-Jul-2010 16:28

I am surprised there has been no comments from Vfone concerning mobile termination rates.