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powerforce

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#71691 15-Nov-2010 16:29

hi all, a few months back when i was having problems with my internet i looked into when my cabinet would be upgraded.
It was due to be upgraded in either November or December. Iv been trying to find the site with the info on what exchange im connected to and when it will be upgraded.

Can anyone point me in the right direction? I entered my address in the telecom thing here

http://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/speed/adsl2

and that just tells me my address has already been upgraded with ADSL2+ technology.
Im pretty sure thats not what im supposed to be looking at.

Wanting to get my head around what plan i will need to switch to in order to gain the benefits from the new cabinet when its all upgraded.

Im sure its supposed to be happening very very soon.
thanks

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#404957 15-Nov-2010 16:54

Is this what you are looking for?

http://www.chorus.co.nz/cabinet-notices

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#404979 15-Nov-2010 17:30

www.telecomwholesale.co.nz/maps

powerforce

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#405193 16-Nov-2010 09:19

Thanks for that, according to the map thing im on HCK/BP cabinet, and am getting upgraded to VDSL2+ in dec 2010.
Then according to the spreadsheet in the other link HCK/BP is due for "migration" 17/11/10.
thats tomorrow!
will be interesting to see how this will affect my internet. Currently im on the purple + plan, Will i be best served switching to somethig else?

I want to stay with orcon.

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#405194 16-Nov-2010 09:22

I don't think orcon has any DSLAMs in cabinets? So you'll still be on the same DSLAM in the cabinet and nothing will change.

(Unless the cabinet going live messes up your sync rate, which has happened before)

powerforce

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#405209 16-Nov-2010 09:53

so ill need to leave orcon to take advantage of it?

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#405212 16-Nov-2010 10:02

I dont think Orcon have any unbundled services in HB, so your on a Telecom Wholesale connection, so in theory you should see a change in service, check your modem stats now, (ie line attenuation/noise margin/sync rate etc) maybe post them here, then do the same ina few days time when youve noticed (if you lucky) a bump in service.

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powerforce

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#405219 16-Nov-2010 10:20

cool ill post them when i get home. should be interesting..

speedyj

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#405298 16-Nov-2010 13:43

if you are on orcons + plans, then if you get cabnitised expect worse preformance. they need to lenghten the service leads to get you through the cabinet, and if you are not a telecom or telecom wholesale customer, you don't get to use any of the good stuff in those cabinets.

if you are on a wholesale plan with max/max you should see an improvement in your sync rates, assuming your modem is adsl2+ compatible.

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#405303 16-Nov-2010 13:47

they need to lenghten the service leads to get you through the cabinet

Ummmm, no thats not a viable solution, its the fact that the effected lines are in the same wrapper as the cabinet lines, to run a new street distribution feeder just for you is not an option.

Regardsless there is no Orcon+ ULL service in HB.

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#405306 16-Nov-2010 13:49

well im not sure exactly what they do on a chorus level as im not a chorus tech, however i know if you are on LLU and you get put on a cabinet it's generally bad news.

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#405311 16-Nov-2010 13:54

Correct it is bad so you have no choice but to be put back on a service from the cabinet, running an new line from exchange to your house to circumvent the midspan injection issues from the cabinet, however its not a cost effective option.

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#405349 16-Nov-2010 14:56

speedyj: if you are on orcons + plans, then if you get cabnitised expect worse preformance.

Customers get moved from an Orcon+ LLU service to an Orcon DSL Service. Service will be provisioned from the cabinet.

Customers don't need to move away from Orcon to make use of the cabinet.

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#405377 16-Nov-2010 15:46

Well, once you get moved from Orcon+ to the normal orcon DSL service, depending on how Orcon has the backhaul for their ULL service setup you might end up with worse on peak speeds. ;)

powerforce

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#405431 16-Nov-2010 17:00

oh my, have just got home and checked modem stats + done a speedtest.

my speed has dropped down to 1/3rd of what it was!!!

modem stats are as follows...

Line Mode
ADSL2+
Line State
Show Time

Line Power State
L0
Line Up Time
13:21:48:57

Line Coding
Trellis On
Line Up Count
2

Statistics
Downstream
Upstream

Line Rate
1799 Kbps
1019 Kbps

Attainable Line Rate
2692 Kbps
1100 Kbps

Noise Margin
7.6 dB
8.6 dB

Line Attenuation
49.5 dB
31.8 dB

Output Power
0.0 dBm
12.9 dBm

i was previously getting close to 6mbps with the same line attenuation.

here is a speedtest from just now...
[URL=https://www.speedtest.net][IMG]https://www.speedtest.net/result/1032119975.png[/IMG][/URL]

i take it i should be ringing Orcon about now??

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#405438 16-Nov-2010 17:08

Hi, as has been mentioned Orcon dont have ULL connections in HB so one assumes that you will be moved to the cabinet as other wholesale customers will.

Its quite common that during the transition there is reduction in speed while lines are cut over, then things go very good once a clean cut to the cabinet is made. I would give it a few more days and see what transpires.

Cyril

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