Why does Orcon and Asia Net have ridiculous packet loss

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OldGreybeard

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Wannabe Geek

#72208 22-Nov-2010 23:59

I have reported this so many time to Orcon I have lost count. Maybe they will realize it here

|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|                                      WinMTR statistics                                   |
|                       Host          Packet loss % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last |
|---------------------------------------------- --|------|------|------|------|------|------|
| 192.168.***,***           -            0 |   54 |   54 |    0 |   20 | 110 |   16 |
| lo1.ras1.nct.orcon.net.nz            -         16 |   54 |   51 |   15 |   48 | 157 |   31 |
| ge-0-0-4-0.cre2.nct.orcon.net.nz -           0 |   54 |   54 |   15 |   48 |   93 |   32 |
| 121.98.9.146 -                                      4 |   54 |   52 |   15 |   49 |   94 |   32 |
| ORC-0014.GW1.AKL1.asianetcom.net -   33 |   54 |   36 |   15 |   43 |   94 |   32 |
| gi10-0-0-401.GW1.AKL1.asianetcom.net 12 |   53 |   47 |   31 |   46 |   79 |   32 |
| po2-0-1.gw5.lax1.asianetcom.net -          0 |   53 |   53 | 156 | 170 | 204 | 172 |
| gi7-0-0.gw2.sjc1.asianetcom.net -            0 |   53 |   53 | 187 | 203 | 250 | 188 |
| 154.54.11.13 -                                      2 |   53 |   52 | 156 | 192 | 344 | 172 |
| 154.54.6.105 -                                      0 |   53 |   53 | 156 | 193 | 375 | 172 |

its like this most the time

icepicknz

309 posts

Ultimate Geek

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#407958 23-Nov-2010 06:57

juniper devices have a tendancy to drop icmp packets (low priority) directed at it's IP addresses so it's not a true reflection of the packet loss on that hop. As I can see further hops dont have loss there doesnt seem to be an issue. Our junos dont drop but rather the ping can jump to high numbers...

I know orcon use juniper so I would expect this behavior, not sure about ANC though but they may be all juniper too.

Keys: Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                                           Packets               Pings
Host                                                    Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. ge-0-0-0-47-SkyCore01.vibecommunications.co.nz        0.0%    61    2.9 40.1   2.6 516.9 107.4
2. ge-0-0-0-58-int-SkyBorder01.vibecom.co.nz             0.0%    61    3.8   3.9   2.2   5.4   0.6
3. ip-161.203.31.114.VOCUS.net.au                        0.0%    61    1.0   1.3   0.9   2.5   0.3
4. ten-0-1-0-62.bdr02.akl01.akl.VOCUS.net.au             0.0%    61   25.6 26.0 24.8 52.6   3.5
5. ip-34.202.31.114.VOCUS.net.au                         0.0%    61   26.3 25.9 24.5 52.3   4.7
6. ip-96.192.31.144.VOCUS.net.au                         0.0%    61   25.8 25.4 25.0 26.8   0.3
7. google.syd03.nsw.VOCUS.net.au                         0.0%    61   25.4 26.5 24.7 51.9   5.5
8. 66.249.95.234                                         0.0%    61   25.8 26.1 25.8 27.1   0.3
9. 209.85.249.52                                         0.0%    61 126.8 126.2 125.3 135.7   1.7
10. 72.14.236.126                                         0.0%    60 137.7 131.1 125.8 139.4   4.6
11. nrt04s01-in-f99.1e100.net                             0.0%    60 125.8 126.1 125.6 127.6   0.4

Notice the first hop has a high ping of 516.9 and average of 40ms, though the next hop is always constant at average 3.8ms

Barry Murphy
ISPMap - New Zealand ISP map
Vibe Communications LTD - Business ISP and Wholesale Carrier

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Ragnor

8219 posts

Uber Geek

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#408420 23-Nov-2010 17:33

Yep ICMP traffic is the first to be dropped, what's the actual problem you are seeing that you are trying to solve ie: poor ping/latency in game x ?

Try using NMAP (which works on Windows thesedays, yay) or Zenmap their GUI.

You can do a tcp tracert, example: