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#72943 5-Dec-2010 18:32
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I've finally had it with Orcon. Half a year ago disconnections suddenly started. My whole family uses internet 24/7 and this problem is not only annoying but stressful. I would be lucky to survive one day without any problems. For the past hour I have lost internet for atleast 5 times.

This is seriously making me insane. I have phoned support 3 times. First time was by my mother and unfortunately had an unfriendly person on the line who had me nearly scolding him when I took over the phone. I do not need to face attitude from a customer support who is frustrated and annoyed before I am.

I have disconnections literally everyday. Even at early morning hours. When the internet is up, it does not have any signs of being faulty. The internet speed is fine. Problem is, it is down every few minutes at certain times and I am lucky to even get one hour without disconnections. When they resetted my connection, it lasted for a day without disconnecting and then it happens again.

I am sick of phoning Orcon and going through the usual process of telling them my line is filtered, blah blah only to result in them telling me that they can't help me and I will need them to book a technician for me. If it is my fault, I pay; If it is their fault, they pay. But I'm not going to play a he did/I did game at the end of the day as to whose fault it actually is.

I had:
1) Changed modem
2) Bypassed router and directly connect modem to pc
3) Changed cables

I would much rather change to another ISP to see if it is my fault then get a technician rather than playing the game in which whose fault it is would be hard to prove. When the disconnections started, no changes were made.


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  #413086 5-Dec-2010 18:47
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Could have you not added this to another Orcon thread



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  #413088 5-Dec-2010 18:50
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All IPS's in NZ use Chorus techs and it is them who charge the ISP this fee which they will then pass onto you if it was your equipment causing the issue. If however you have completed all the testing that was asked of you there should not be anything to worry about as that is was the purpose of the testing is - to ensure it isn’t your equipment.

I would recommend giving Orcon a quick call back and explain what you have done and request that a fault is lodged as it sounds like there is clearly a fault on your line.



 

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  #413092 5-Dec-2010 19:02
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johnr - I assumed being in the right forum is all I need.

wizkid - will phone again tomorrow during business hours and see how things go.

Not trying to slam Orcon, had been with them for years but these disconnections just drive me insane. I just want to browse youtube or trademe in peace lol



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  #423724 3-Jan-2011 13:28
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I've had the same technical problem with Orcon with more sympathetic reception from the help desk, although the problem is not completely resolved. I've found the email help desk to be helpful, although, with an unstable connection, that may not be practical for yourself.

I was switched from unbundelled to a cabinet and about 6 months later the ADSL2 side of things became very unstable. I discovered accidentally (by switching out my modem of dusty old ones in the cupboard) that ADSL1 worked OK but ADSL2 was bad.

By limiting my ADSL2+ modem to ADSL1 connections only, I have solved the stability issue. (not all ADSL2+ modems have this feature).

The Orcon help desks final solution was for me to leave my modem set to ADSL 1.

As Orcon kindly gave me a discount when they were forced to switch my back to Telecom Wholesales Cabinet, I put up with the lower speeds because the price is right. I suspect that changing ISP would not fix the problem, because I would still be connected to the same port on the same faulty cabinet. (I live in hope that someone runs the cabinet over, so that they have to replace it).

I live about 300 meters from the cabinet and was getting about 18Mbps prior to the fault. On ADSL1 I get about 9000 Mbps, which is fast enough.

Try talking to your neighbors about sharing internet via wireless. It seems a bit silly that every house in the street is paying Telecom for a unique ADSL connection, when in most cases, 1 connection between 3 or so houses would meet every ones needs and leave $30 or $40 extra in peoples back pockets.

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  #423789 3-Jan-2011 19:26
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Just have them book a techie and get it sorted 99.99% of the time it's a fault at the cabinet

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  #423817 3-Jan-2011 21:34
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Athlonite: Just have them book a techie and get it sorted 99.99% of the time it's a fault at the cabinet


You're right about it being at the cabinet usually- or the temp tails they make- it's getting them to actually SEND someone out that's the problem!  

 
 
 

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  #423833 3-Jan-2011 22:25
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Athlonite: Just have them book a techie and get it sorted 99.99% of the time it's a fault at the cabinet


Wrong, most of the time it's a fault in the home wiring.

And to the OP, if the service has been this bad for so long, why are you still with Orcon? I believe that for quite some time they didn't even have a minimum contract period, so it's likely you could switch without financial penalty...

I can only presume that on balance, Orcon is providing a better service most of the time than any other ISP you could get service with, or else you would have switched by now...

Cheers - N

Note that I have both an Orcon and a Telecom connection here at my place... I use them for different things though. I must say however that throughput issues on one connection aside, both have been incredibly stable and reliable.






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  #423836 3-Jan-2011 22:58
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Have you checked your internal wiring?
Checked for corrosion?
Disconnect phones and fax machines for a while to see if it gets better?
Are you using correct filters?
Are you using filters in correct places?
What modem brand are you using?
Is the modem running the latest firmware?
Do you have Sky?
Is Sky plugged directly to your line with no filters?
Do you have a wired alarm?
Is the wired alarm in a separate line?
What are your line stats?





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  #423892 4-Jan-2011 10:08
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Had chorus here the other day; wires replaced in this box thing and the guy put in a new device (I do not know the names) and switched booths from Howick to a closer cabinet. No problems now. I assume it was the wiring fault as technician said there was some corrosion so I apologise for that.  Was not orcon's end.

Talkiet - Yes I stayed with orcon because usually their service has been good. Had been on them for years and didn't mind paying more in comparison to Xnet for example.

Reconnections
Before fix:
2010-12-02 14
2010-12-03 34
2010-12-04 62
2010-12-05 51

2010-12-18 51
2010-12-19 28
2010-12-20 40
2010-12-21 2



After fix : 0 reconnections

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  #423977 4-Jan-2011 17:06
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I know your frustration - try do all the basic FAQ/Troubleshooting to figure out whats wrong, I had over 150 disconnects and it was at the exchange end, nobody took any responsibility and I have yet to read on here where people have had issues and Orcon say "Sorry it was our fault" with these issues. Usage issues they have finally admited to making a mistake.

I am amazed at how the Admin/Mods dont ban/remove or block people who flame others here who are generally in despair on the forums, such as FaclonNZ or w/e his name is (Check my Orcon Again thread).

Best of luck with you, keep ringing up and complaining, if you want anything done you have to hound them 24/7 sadly as a residential customer, business customer? Well they actually manage to get good service.

Good luck mate.

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  #424062 4-Jan-2011 21:34
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Emp: I know your frustration - try do all the basic FAQ/Troubleshooting to figure out whats wrong, I had over 150 disconnects and it was at the exchange end, nobody took any responsibility and I have yet to read on here where people have had issues and Orcon say "Sorry it was our fault" with these issues. Usage issues they have finally admited to making a mistake.


Read the OP reply. His problem was solved, bad wiring. Nothing to do directly with Orcon.

Emp: I am amazed at how the Admin/Mods dont ban/remove or block people who flame others here who are generally in despair on the forums, such as FaclonNZ or w/e his name is


We didn't ban FalconNZ simply because there is a moment for everything, and your Orcon thread was a soap box, just a rant and he gave his personal opinion - no personal attacks involved. He didn't break our forum usage guidelines, he just disagreed with you, and this is not a problem.

Emp: Best of luck with you, keep ringing up and complaining, if you want anything done you have to hound them 24/7 sadly as a residential customer, business customer? Well they actually manage to get good service.


As I said, already fixed. In your other thread though a Orcon person admitted there was a billing problem and these were being fixed. 





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