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#1335020 1-Jul-2015 13:50

For Freeview Plus to work does the TV or other device just need the HBB TV option or does it need special configuration to work with Freeview NZ .

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#1335023 1-Jul-2015 13:52

Oncop53: I am probably dreaming here, but would it be possible to use FreeView Plus through a HTPC running KODI ?

Probably not if it's anywhere near as locked down as the previous EPG thing was.

These links may be of use to some?
List of supported TVs:
http://www.freeviewnz.tv/freeview/2015-approved-freeviewplus-models/lg-models/
http://www.freeviewnz.tv/freeview/2015-approved-freeviewplus-models/panasonic-models/
http://www.freeviewnz.tv/freeview/2015-approved-freeviewplus-models/sony-models/
http://www.freeviewnz.tv/freeview/2015-approved-freeviewplus-models/samsung-models/

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#1335074 1-Jul-2015 14:22

LGSAM: For Freeview Plus to work does the TV or other device just need the HBB TV option or does it need special configuration to work with Freeview NZ .

Yes, HBBTV can be toggled on/off from the settings, but HBBTV needs to be switched on to enable the FreeviewPlus pop up notification

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#1335075 1-Jul-2015 14:23

MileHighKiwi: Sorry if this has been covered earlier in the thread, but will this work with my current Vodafone TV setup, which I get Freeview through?

Most likely not, you will need a FreeviewPlus Set Top Box or TV to receive the service, you will need to double check with Vodafone though to clarify

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#1335078 1-Jul-2015 14:26

grolschie: Funny, cos I could watch that IPTV test channel 600 a while back on my 2013 Panasonic E6. I could watch Big Buck Bunny and other stuff. So, older TVs do support IPTV TV via the Freeview platform.

If any IPTV channels come to Freeview (Fully stream channels without an app) Then your TV will receive them, The Retune Info channel is an example of this anything interactive will be able to work with your device/TV (Excludes FPlus)

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#1335091 1-Jul-2015 14:42

joshhill96:
LGSAM: For Freeview Plus to work does the TV or other device just need the HBB TV option or does it need special configuration to work with Freeview NZ .

Yes, HBBTV can be toggled on/off from the settings, but HBBTV needs to be switched on to enable the FreeviewPlus pop up notification

Thanks . The reason I ask is because my LG does not appear on the list of supported devices but I know if I set it to Australian broadcast service I will be able to turn on HBB and then re-tune to our free-view Frequency . But I have no idea if this will work .

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#1335163 1-Jul-2015 16:33

LGSAM: The reason I ask is because my LG does not appear on the list of supported devices but I know if I set it to Australian broadcast service I will be able to turn on HBB and then re-tune to our free-view Frequency . But I have no idea if this will work .

AFAIK the main difference between AU and NZ broadcasts is the DVB-T bandwidth. AU has 7 MHz channels; NZ has 8 MHz channels. The rest - DVB-T, EIT and MHEG 5 for EPG, and now HbbTV - is much of a muchness. If I owned your TV and FreeviewPlus support is not enabled in the near future then I'd start making a lot of noise on Facebook and Twitter, email and call support channels etc., because the only reason not to enable support would seem to be money.

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#1335177 1-Jul-2015 16:50

joshhill96:
grolschie: Funny, cos I could watch that IPTV test channel 600 a while back on my 2013 Panasonic E6. I could watch Big Buck Bunny and other stuff. So, older TVs do support IPTV TV via the Freeview platform.

If any IPTV channels come to Freeview (Fully stream channels without an app) Then your TV will receive them, The Retune Info channel is an example of this anything interactive will be able to work with your device/TV (Excludes FPlus)

Thanks for that. Channel 500 is viewable on my other non-smart, non-networked TV, whereas 600 wasn't

I wonder if HbbTV can be switched on in the hidden 'system' menus of TVs that support it on overseas variants...?

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#1335233 1-Jul-2015 17:38

Jaxson:
Oncop53: I am probably dreaming here, but would it be possible to use FreeView Plus through a HTPC running KODI ?

Probably not if it's anywhere near as locked down as the previous EPG thing was.

MHEG 5 is not locked down. The standard is publicly available if you're willing to pay ISO for it. The reason it hasn't been widely supported in HTPC land is that it's a lot of effort to implement, and the "benefits" (mostly a consistent EPG view across all devices) aren't particularly appealing to HTPC software developers. It also doesn't help that it has only been deployed in 5 countries, and now looks like it will be replaced/superseded [at least for the interactive and on-demand elements] by HbbTV.

@Oncop53
Yes, I think it would technically be possible... but I don't think it will happen in any hurry if ever.

The question of HbbTV support in any HTPC software is similar to the question of MHEG 5 support: are there enough benefits to justify the effort? So far the answer has been an almost universal "no". As with MHEG 5, the only PVR software that I'm aware of which has support is DVBViewer (via a paid add-on). This is despite the fact that HbbTV has wider deployment and is used more for interactive and on-demand applications and content than MHEG 5.

From a Kodi perspective: I think you're in "no man's land".

I don't see the Kodi team implementing support because they don't have built-in broadcast TV support and HbbTV is not used in any other context. So, they probably don't see any reason to even consider implementing support.

As I said above DVBViewer has support, but the DVBViewer PVR plugin won't help unless the developer of said plugin is able to implement HbbTV support within the constraints for Kodi plugins. Even then, if the content is protected then it won't be usable/viewable (AFAIK same reason TVNZ OnDemand, 3 Now etc. aren't available in Kodi). Same issues apply to any other backend (ARGUS, MediaPortal, TVHeadend, Myth etc.).

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#1335272 1-Jul-2015 19:05

Anyone managed to get this working yet?

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#1335299 1-Jul-2015 19:29

Could Lightbox and Netflix be added to this possibly

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#1335300 1-Jul-2015 19:31

Yabanize: Could Lightbox and Netflix be added to this possibly

A good question to ask Lightbox... Could be possible?

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#1335313 1-Jul-2015 19:52

joshhill96:
Yabanize: Could Lightbox and Netflix be added to this possibly

A good question to ask Lightbox... Could be possible?

If so this will be bloody awesome. One box that does everything

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#1335330 1-Jul-2015 20:13

Interestingly, Panasonic rolled out HbbTV to their 2014 devices in Australia late last year via an update: http://www.cnet.com/au/news/panasonic-brings-hbbtv-to-blu-ray-and-dvd-recorders/

EDIT: And their 2011 VT30 series TVs got HbbTV overseas.

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#1335331 1-Jul-2015 20:16

mm1352000:
LGSAM: The reason I ask is because my LG does not appear on the list of supported devices but I know if I set it to Australian broadcast service I will be able to turn on HBB and then re-tune to our free-view Frequency . But I have no idea if this will work .

AFAIK the main difference between AU and NZ broadcasts is the DVB-T bandwidth. AU has 7 MHz channels; NZ has 8 MHz channels. The rest - DVB-T, EIT and MHEG 5 for EPG, and now HbbTV - is much of a muchness. If I owned your TV and FreeviewPlus support is not enabled in the near future then I'd start making a lot of noise on Facebook and Twitter, email and call support channels etc., because the only reason not to enable support would seem to be money.

I have just changed my 2014 LG to Australian broadcast location and turned HBB TV on , re tuned and reset GMT time and now have Freeview plus working fine , haven't noticed any bugs with it considering the way I have had to do this ,

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