A Freeview satellite update (January 2025)

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Master Geek

#3364523 15-Apr-2025 22:55

DamageInc:

My mum rang me in a panic to say her freeview was not working. Did some digging and found the freeview update notice happening today.

My mum has the freeview box S7070r. Currently has no strength or quality showing, both 0%.

I've tried re-tuning, tried the cold re-tune, both nothing.

Do we have to buy a new freeview box?

Any help much appreciated.

Yes, she will need a new box. I too had to organise a replacement of that same model for an older couple in my family. I chose the DishTV SAT1. It is easy to set up, easy to use, and they are happy with it.

DamageInc

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#3364537 16-Apr-2025 07:43

openmedia:

DamageInc:

My mum rang me in a panic to say her freeview was not working. Did some digging and found the freeview update notice happening today.

My mum has the freeview box S7070r. Currently has no strength or quality showing, both 0%.

I've tried re-tuning, tried the cold re-tune, both nothing.

Do we have to buy a new freeview box?

Any help much appreciated.

DVB-S only box so I'm afraid you'll have to upgrade

Good as gold, thanks so much for your help. Off to The Warehouse it is.

Pop! OS

DamageInc

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#3364538 16-Apr-2025 07:45

Buckchoi:

DamageInc:

My mum rang me in a panic to say her freeview was not working. Did some digging and found the freeview update notice happening today.

My mum has the freeview box S7070r. Currently has no strength or quality showing, both 0%.

I've tried re-tuning, tried the cold re-tune, both nothing.

Do we have to buy a new freeview box?

Any help much appreciated.

Yes, she will need a new box. I too had to organise a replacement of that same model for an older couple in my family. I chose the DishTV SAT1. It is easy to set up, easy to use, and they are happy with it.

Thanks so much for your help. I see The Warehouse have these so that's the after-work project today.

Pop! OS

Mavarick

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#3364539 16-Apr-2025 07:50

This was very helpful for me

thank you for posting

DaMuzzMan67:

Well, using our newish DishTV Sat1 box, it has automatically switched over to the new satellite using the transponders:

12456/H/22500 14 Services
12483/H/22500 8 Services
12530/H/30000 4 Services
12394/H/22500 0 Services

All the channels are there without having to do any manual work. Looks like the signal strength has increased from about 80% to high 90s.

Quinny

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#3364546 16-Apr-2025 08:42

My sister, who is blind, is in a real mess at her place. They use DVB-S and have a big mess of hardware. Some have updated, and some have not. Trying to get her to understand the difference between DVB-T and DVB-S, let alone why some are working and some are not, is proving difficult. I think a visit will be needed. In addition, whatever I replace with needs to have a dedicated Freeview button. I found the SmartVu and feel like I may as well just move her to streaming.

bun1

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#3364948 17-Apr-2025 09:40

So with the new satellite what frequency is freeview on and what resolution are the channels at?

Behodar

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#3364974 17-Apr-2025 11:29

They're still SD. The base frequency is still 12483 (the receiver should automatically find the others).

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Buckchoi

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#3365085 17-Apr-2025 19:43

Are they still MPEG-2 and not H264?

Edit: After reading the Sky thread it seems they are using both, depending on the channel.

Behodar

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#3365411 18-Apr-2025 17:32

When I look at the Freeview spec and see that HEVC will be at 1080p50 it puts me in two minds. On one hand, interlaced needs to die, so full progressive is a great improvement. But the cynic in me wonders whether the broadcasters will use interpolation on 25p content and recreate the "soap opera effect"... only one that you won't be able to disable in your TV settings.

Apsattv

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#3365480 18-Apr-2025 21:51

I wouldnt worry about it hevc aint happening now or in the future. The market for linear tv is dead. A bit of a lame duck like the whole Freeview platform has always been. There hardly a demand from any 3rd party channels to get onto it. The broadcasters don't want to put money into it.

Gone by 2030 i reckon, replaced by propper iptv delivery over fibre

kiwirock

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#3365484 18-Apr-2025 22:33

Apsattv:

I wouldnt worry about it hevc aint happening now or in the future. The market for linear tv is dead. A bit of a lame duck like the whole Freeview platform has always been. There hardly a demand from any 3rd party channels to get onto it. The broadcasters don't want to put money into it.

Gone by 2030 i reckon, replaced by propper iptv delivery over fibre

I suspect you're right with the timing. Terrestrial licenses come up for renewal in 2031 I think.

openmedia

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#3365559 19-Apr-2025 11:01

Apsattv:

I wouldnt worry about it hevc aint happening now or in the future. The market for linear tv is dead. A bit of a lame duck like the whole Freeview platform has always been. There hardly a demand from any 3rd party channels to get onto it. The broadcasters don't want to put money into it.

Gone by 2030 i reckon, replaced by propper iptv delivery over fibre

I'd be keeping an eye on Freely from the UK to see how well it gets adopted

https://www.freely.co.uk/

Generally known online as OpenMedia, now working for Red Hat APAC as a Technology Evangelist and Portfolio Architect. Still playing with MythTV and digital media on the side.

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#3365571 19-Apr-2025 13:58

I’d be happy to remove my UHF antenna for Freeview and use the streaming option if the picture and sound quality were on par

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#3365626 19-Apr-2025 15:25

DjShadow:

I’d be happy to remove my UHF antenna for Freeview and use the streaming option if the picture and sound quality were on par

They really should be better, as they don't have the limitations of spectrum or need to confirm to legacy lowest common supported formats. like over the air with being stuck at silly frame rates, fixed aspect ratios and ancient codecs. The problem is they are creating content for that legacy infrastructure and then dumping it online where it cant be any better.

Richard rich.ms

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#3366330 21-Apr-2025 22:06

Hi there I have had to replace my sat box on my second tv as I lost some channels.
The no 1 tv has inbuilt freeveiw and works well, it works with LNB 12750 on KU band and through optus d1, and gets all the channels.
So the new box i got for my second TV, I have managed to tune in, all the channels but with great difficulty and a lot of time. LNB is 5150 on C band and through multiple random satellites, but not including optus or koreasat.
Do you think I am doing something wrong and what can I do to make everything work through our new satellite.

I should add that both setups are connected to the same small dish.

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