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#133902 7-Nov-2013 13:34
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Read this on Stuff - No more Fox shows on MediaWorks 

I guess the writing has been on the wall for some time for MediaWorks but this can't help them.  How are they going to get the advertising revenue without some of these shows?

Funny I was only discussing with the wife last night that I'm surprised that Homeland is not on yet as last season I seem to think it was on the same week as the US.  This answers that question.

What are your thoughts on this?  I'm sure some will say traditional TV delivery is dead.  If so, we need a Netflix/Hulu model in NZ (legally - not the grey area from overseas) where users can watch on either a PPV, pay per series option or monthly subscription.




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  #928835 7-Nov-2013 15:12
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Personally I have never been interested in the foreign content on TV3. I watch the odd British show on Prime such as Downton Abbey and Top Gear, but on TV3 I really only watch news and current affairs.

Hopefully they will deliver on their promise to deliver more local programming, but in their current position you'd think that they'd be more keen to push the less expensive imported content.

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  #928837 7-Nov-2013 15:13
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I seldom if ever watch TV3

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  #928840 7-Nov-2013 15:17
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I seldom watch "TV"! :)



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  #928859 7-Nov-2013 15:47
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While the majority on here don't seem too worried about TV3's changing content lineup, we, as a community, do represent a generally well educated, connected and capable section of society who are capable of finding and consuming content that interests us without broadcasters help. For the most part, the vast majority of NZ can't or won't and this will really affect them.

Its disappointing to see Mediaworks lose some very popular forgein programs that enjoy good ratings. I'm sure they'll eventually strike a new deal for the shows that haven't already been plucked by the likes of TVNZ or Sky for their own line ups. However it is going to put C4 under the gun... without a plentiful supply of realty shows and cartoons C4 really hasn't got much to offer its target demographic. For the average Kiwi who only consumes their content via traditional broadcast this is going to be a huge inconvience.

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  #928869 7-Nov-2013 15:57
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Its just the fox shows - are they that great?




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  #928900 7-Nov-2013 16:31
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I do a lot of thinking and problem solving at work, I do like to come home and switch off. My relaxation method is to watch TV that I don't have to think too much about.

From the line-up mentioned I would say that I will miss Homeland and Bones but I don't honestly know which shows are from which producer. So I'm not sure which shows I will be missing until I suddenly realise that I haven't seen them for a while!

What I really don't want is the schedule being filled with more pseudo-reality programming filled with people who believe they deserve more than their 5 minutes of "fame".




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  #928930 7-Nov-2013 16:56
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robjg63: Its just the fox shows - are they that great?


we're not talking about shows that Fox make here, but shows that they distribute. e.g. - take Homeland for example - a show from cable network Showtime that is owned by CBS but distributed internationally by Fox.



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  #928935 7-Nov-2013 17:06
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farcus:
robjg63: Its just the fox shows - are they that great?


we're not talking about shows that Fox make here, but shows that they distribute. e.g. - take Homeland for example - a show from cable network Showtime that is owned by CBS but distributed internationally by Fox.


ok - fair point.




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  #928940 7-Nov-2013 17:24
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the simpsons is Fox.


But if they won't be on Mediaworks anymore, that brings them up for bidding from somebody else.

Maybe a new player, like Netflix, will step up and buy the rights?

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  #928942 7-Nov-2013 17:27
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NonprayingMantis: the simpsons is Fox.


But if they won't be on Mediaworks anymore, that brings them up for bidding from somebody else.

Maybe a new player, like Netflix, will step up and buy the rights?

I'm more concerned that Sky will buy the rights and create another SoHo (seeing how they have money saved from not buying the footie)




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  #928943 7-Nov-2013 17:29
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StarBlazer:
NonprayingMantis: the simpsons is Fox.


But if they won't be on Mediaworks anymore, that brings them up for bidding from somebody else.

Maybe a new player, like Netflix, will step up and buy the rights?

I'm more concerned that Sky will buy the rights and create another SoHo (seeing how they have money saved from not buying the footie)


they only saved abut $3m from not buying the footie  you can bet that  fox output deal is going to be in the region of 20-30m per year.
I don't beleive Sky or TVNZ have the budget for doing that.  
So fox will either need to let the TV companies cherry pick, or keep content to themselves.

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NonprayingMantis:
StarBlazer:
NonprayingMantis: the simpsons is Fox.


But if they won't be on Mediaworks anymore, that brings them up for bidding from somebody else.

Maybe a new player, like Netflix, will step up and buy the rights?

I'm more concerned that Sky will buy the rights and create another SoHo (seeing how they have money saved from not buying the footie)


they only saved abut $3m from not buying the footie  you can bet that  fox output deal is going to be in the region of 20-30m per year.
I don't beleive Sky or TVNZ have the budget for doing that.  
So fox will either need to let the TV companies cherry pick, or keep content to themselves.

Which is why there is a possibility that Sky will go in with a bid and create either another Pay Channel or add it to the existing channel and charge more - $10 for each channel or $15 for both kind of thing.

Broadcasters/distributers are not that good at coming to the party - I can't see them losing that much sleep over this!




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  #929048 7-Nov-2013 20:00
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StarBlazer:
NonprayingMantis: the simpsons is Fox.


But if they won't be on Mediaworks anymore, that brings them up for bidding from somebody else.

Maybe a new player, like Netflix, will step up and buy the rights?

I'm more concerned that Sky will buy the rights and create another SoHo (seeing how they have money saved from not buying the footie)


I actually want this to happen. A couple of those shows read/review as if they are fairly good. Screened on a channel that isn't ad-saturated they might even be worth watching.......

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  #929178 7-Nov-2013 23:10
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You think their day could get any worse?
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11153170

Article: Roast Busters: Companies pull ads from RadioLive
NZ Herald dated 7th November 2013

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  #929356 8-Nov-2013 12:36
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I'm curious how, precisely, companies like MediaWorks gather viewership numbers for their advertisers. I don't see an accurate way they could point to a television show and say "500,000 people watched that episode and, most likely, the advertising." How is this accomplished? I assume via some sort of survey extrapolation?

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