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Topic # 150223 15-Jul-2014 17:33
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Good Evening,

I just had a new Hills DVB-T antenna installed; on a Samsung LCD with inbuilt Freeview, the signal is 95%

I have now connected to my PC which has a Hauppauge WINTV- HVR-3300 TV Tuner card and I can't get TV3, C4 and Prime...

I have tried the bundled software and Windows Media Centre with no joy, I am running an i5 760, 8GB of RAM and a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 video card, what am I missed?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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  Reply # 1089432 15-Jul-2014 17:57
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I found that my Hauppage TV card (2210) was not as good as my Bravia TV at picking up the signal. In fact the TV would pick up a signal just with the antenna cable plugged into the back, but not plugged into the wall!

I've now got a HDHomerun tuner. I'd say it's a tiny bit better than the previous setup, but not much.

I think the only thing one can do is get a professional installer to optimise your antenna system, but you've already done that...




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  Reply # 1089477 15-Jul-2014 19:27
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Im in Auckland (using Waiatarua) and had this problem with my HVR2200 card after the restack on 1 May using WINTV 7. Because two of the muxes shifted to different channels the inbuilt database for tuning Waiatarua no longer found them. When I selected the whole of NZ instead of Waiatarua I was able to retune all channels but it takes a long time. Using Regional selection only tunes the inbuilt database of channels for that region which is much quicker but doesn't allow for channel restacks. Unfortunately the software doesn't allow manual tuning. There's just been an update released for WINTV 7 but I haven't installed yet. Maybe this will fix the problem. I suspect Windows Media Centre may have the same problem.

Edit. P.S. Try using VLC. That has manual tuning and worked just fine for me.

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1089528 15-Jul-2014 20:24
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My pick would be scanning the incorrect MUXs as well.

Try NextPVR - it's far better than both of them, and written in Wellington!





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  Reply # 1089550 15-Jul-2014 20:57
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Thanks all, I have re-scanned all regions which made no difference and have done the same with NextPVR.

How do I scan the incorrect MUXs?

 


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  Reply # 1089586 15-Jul-2014 21:43
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brad.wright: Thanks all, I have re-scanned all regions which made no difference and have done the same with NextPVR.

How do I scan the incorrect MUXs?

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What software and what version are you using? If it's WINTV 7 and you scanned all regions then it should find them all. As I said, no way to manually tune each MUX so have to scan the lot.
You say you get 95% on the TV but is that the same on all 3 mux? The Hauppage tuners seem less sensitive than TVs.
You might find some useful info in this thread.
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=83&topicid=103566


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  Reply # 1089703 16-Jul-2014 08:03
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I'm in Wellington also. I bought an Intel NUC and Hauppauge 1900.

The recordings only look good and fast-forward correctly if I use the WinTV7, with the most recent drivers and software.

On Windows Media Center, WMC, it looks OK but quickly develops problems with frozen video when fast-forwarding. It works marginally better if I pause then jump forward. However after a few jumps forward, WMC starts acting strange and I have to shut WMC down completely and restart.

On XBMC and Windows Media player, even the slightest motion looks shuttered, like a bad interlace: the even lines refresh at a different time than odd lines.

I tried FFMPEG to convert it from TS to other standards, but same "interlaced" problem. It reports a lot of source errors when encoding.

Apparently not implemented on WInTV7 when using the Hauppauge 1900:

* convert the TS to MPEG files.

* choosing the quality of the TS files output. They are huge at 1.6 TB / hour.

* subtitles don't work (oddly enough they do work in WMC)

I use a Samsung series 6 TV at 1920 x 1080. I having an extremely strong signal, 100% strength at 97% quality.

I'm really disappointed in the Hauppauge 1900, because I was really expecting better from them.

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  Reply # 1089709 16-Jul-2014 08:19
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kingdragonfly:
choosing the quality of the TS files output. They are huge at 1.6 TB / hour.


That cant be right. A ts file is a direct copy of the broadcast stream, HDTV should be up to 8GB/hr. Either the software is doing some crap converting, or your calculations are WAY off.

Also, see how VLC does playing the recordings. If the recording is good, VLC will play it.






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  Reply # 1089710 16-Jul-2014 08:19
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kingdragonfly: I'm in Wellington also. I bought an Intel NUC and Hauppauge 1900.

The recordings only look good and fast-forward correctly if I use the WinTV7, with the most recent drivers and software.

On Windows Media Center, WMC, it looks OK but quickly develops problems with frozen video when fast-forwarding. It works marginally better if I pause then jump forward. However after a few jumps forward, WMC starts acting strange and I have to shut WMC down completely and restart.

On XBMC and Windows Media player, even the slightest motion looks shuttered, like a bad interlace: the even lines refresh at a different time than odd lines.

I tried FFMPEG to convert it from TS to other standards, but same "interlaced" problem. It reports a lot of source errors when encoding.

Apparently not implemented on WInTV7 when using the Hauppauge 1900:

* convert the TS to MPEG files.

* choosing the quality of the TS files output. They are huge at 1.6 TB / hour.

* subtitles don't work (oddly enough they do work in WMC)

I use a Samsung series 6 TV at 1920 x 1080. I having an extremely strong signal, 100% strength at 97% quality.

I'm really disappointed in the Hauppauge 1900, because I was really expecting better from them.

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Not a single fault you've mentioned there is the fault of the Hauppage card.

The sole purpose of a DVB-T card is to feed a DVB-T TS to the PC - it's then up to the software to decode this.

Issues with interlacing are solely your video drivers, settings, video decoder and the software you're using to re-encode a file.

I also don't know how you're seeing 1.5TB /hr for video. I assume you're meaning 1.5GB an hour? H.264 content will vary between about 1GB - 5GB per hour based on the bitrate and broadcast format (576i/720p/1080i) of the show. I've used NextPVR (and GB-PVR before that) for probably 7-8 years now as my sole method of watching and recording TV but have never even once bothered to reencode contant because I see no need so can't offer any advice on what software to use for this. 

No software can allow you to "choose the size of a TS file" because a TS file is a raw transport stream. This can't be altered in realtime as it's a dump of the transport stream as it was broadcast.



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  Reply # 1089770 16-Jul-2014 09:55
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kingdragonfly:
The recordings only look good and fast-forward correctly if I use the WinTV7, with the most recent drivers and software.

On Windows Media Center, WMC, it looks OK but quickly develops problems with frozen video when fast-forwarding. It works marginally better if I pause then jump forward. However after a few jumps forward, WMC starts acting strange and I have to shut WMC down completely and restart.

On XBMC and Windows Media player, even the slightest motion looks shuttered, like a bad interlace: the even lines refresh at a different time than odd lines.




I always use VLC to play my .ts recordings on the PC and my A C Ryan media player to play them on the TV. Never ever had any problems.
WMC is useless IMO. Always have problems with it. It's so slow to navigate and not user-friendly. Never used WIN7 or any others for playback as VLC is so good.

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  Reply # 1091344 18-Jul-2014 12:19
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You're all correct. I meant 1.5 GB / hour.

I haven't tried VLC, but I'll give it a shot.

However WinTV7 must be something different from XBMC and Media Player, because I don't get the "interlaced" motion artefacts problem with WinTV7

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