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#181118 2-Oct-2015 19:45

I've got a Sky dish on my roof that has been there, untouched, for 15 years or so.
Hanging of it I've got a Freeview satellite decoder and a MySky box.

I'm quite keen to watch BVN, according to their website, these are the details to receive it in NZ
Satellite Optus D2
Transponder 5L
Position 152°
East Frequency 12.519 GHZ
Polarization Vertical
Symbol Rate 22.500
System DVB-S
FEC 3/4

My questions:
Would I need an additional dish, or can the current one be somehow adapted for this? (without losing Sky obviously)
Do I need another decoder, or is my current Freeview one up to the job?
Anything else?
Any idea of costs to get me up an running? I assume I'd have to get a bloke (or woman) in. Any recommendations? I'm in Porirua/Whitby.

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#1399092 2-Oct-2015 19:58

You'll need another dish. Cheap enough off Trade Me. Also a 22khz or disqec switch to tie both dish signals together. As for your freeview receiver, depends on the model. Go into the settings and check for 22khz or disqec option, also the ability to add another satellite. For a dish, switch, cable, lnb you shouldn't pay more then $100-$120.

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#1399110 2-Oct-2015 20:56

mrbbi: You'll need another dish. Cheap enough off Trade Me. Also a 22khz or disqec switch to tie both dish signals together. As for your freeview receiver, depends on the model. Go into the settings and check for 22khz or disqec option, also the ability to add another satellite. For a dish, switch, cable, lnb you shouldn't pay more then $100-$120.

Thank you for that. The decoder is

Dish TV satBox-ultra S7090PVR. I had a browse at the menus and couldn't find anything definitive on 22khz or diseqc but the blurb on the website suggests it supports it.

Any installers lurking here who might want to quote me for the rest of the materials plus (back-to-back, single storey) installation.

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#1399126 2-Oct-2015 21:24

Dag Floydbloke,

No, you do not need another dish. The Sky dish works fine for BVN, which is on satellite D2. What you need is another LNB and a satellite receiver.

D2 carries Sky and numerous other channels. A Sky decoder will only receive Sky channels even though there are many others on the same satellite. A non-freeview satellite receiver (there are many on Trade Me) can receive all channels on the D2 satellite. Many (including Sky) will be encrypted. Some, including BVN, are not.

Since the same satellite carries BVN and Sky, any Sky dish can receive both. It can also receive a few other satellites, depending on the size of the dish and your location. You can change the focus of the dish a few degrees according to the position of your LNB. I have a single Sky dish, pointed at D2, with three LNBs. One receives Freeview (on D1), another Sky and other transponders on D2, and a third Intelsat 19.

LNBs are cheap on Trade Me, only a few dollars. You do need someone who knows what they are doing to set it up for you the first time, but it is not difficult. Since I started streaming overseas web sites, I have not used the satellites much, but I do still use it for BVN.

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#1399127 2-Oct-2015 21:36

Dankjewel Rikkitic

Couple of conflicting posts above. Just adding an LNB certainly sounds a lot more desirable than a whole new dish.
How does Sky feel about this though, messing with their kit? If things go to custard a month or a year or however long later and they end up sending out a tech, will they send me a great big bill for tampering with their equipment.

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#1399144 2-Oct-2015 22:03

I can't speak for that, though I doubt you would have any trouble. A dish is just a parabolic reflector. It doesn't have any kind of electrical connection to anything. That is done through the LNB, which is mounted on a support bracket. I didn't have much trouble improvising some extensions and additions to that, in order to mount the additional LNBs. They are completely separate from the Sky LNB (unless you replace it with a dual LNB, which I did to reduce clutter). As long as you don't touch the Sky LNB and cabling, they have nothing to complain about and you can easily remove your additions. Sky almost never revisits their dish installations and any technicians are usually independent contractors hired by the day. They could care less. As long as you get a competent installer to set it up for you, you should be sweet.

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#1399161 2-Oct-2015 22:46

Rikkitic: Dag Floydbloke,

D2 carries Sky and numerous other channels. A Sky decoder will only receive Sky channels even though there are many others on the same satellite. A non-freeview satellite receiver (there are many on Trade Me) can receive all channels on the D2 satellite. Many (including Sky) will be encrypted. Some, including BVN, are not.

Since the same satellite carries BVN and Sky, any Sky dish can receive both. It can also receive a few other satellites, depending on the size of the dish and your location. You can change the focus of the dish a few degrees according to the position of your LNB. I have a single Sky dish, pointed at D2, with three LNBs. One receives Freeview (on D1), another Sky and other transponders on D2, and a third Intelsat 19.

Sky is on D1 not D2

http://www.lyngsat.com/Optus-D1.html
http://www.lyngsat.com/Optus-D2.html

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#1399163 2-Oct-2015 22:59

I just re-read your first post and I think the best set-up for you would be similar to what I have.

You don't want too many separate cables, which is messy and awkward. You do need one additional one, as well as a DiSEq switch and a satellite receiver, of course. The receiver should have a section for setting the switch parameters. I have my original Sky coax cable, which plugs straight into the Sky decoder. The second cable carries the signals for D1 (Freeview), D2 (everything but Sky), and Intelsat 19. The DiSEq switch is mounted somewhere near the dish. Cables from the LNBs plug into the siwtch, feeding the cable that runs down to the receiver. There are other ways of doing this but this works well for me. I did replace the original Sky LNB with a dual LNB which is better but not absolutely necessary. One part of it feeds the Sky decoder and the other part the Freeview connection on the switch. The LNBs have to be mounted at the correct angle to the dish, and there are limited positions that work. Using a dual LNB means I only need three instead of four. It works because Sky and the other D2 channels are both on D2, so the LNB position is the same. That would not be an issue for you.

Since you say you also have Freeview on the same dish, you may already have two coax cables running up to it, either that or a DiSEq switch. In any case you must already have two LNBs on the dish, or a dual one. You are already halfway there.

Setting things up may be a little more complicated if you want to keep your existing Freeview receiver, which you probably should. You will need a new satellite receiver to get BVN and other channels but non-Freeview receivers lack functioning EPGs so you will want your existing receiver for that. If you can live without the EPG, you can get by with just the new satellite receiver as it can also get Freeview.

I have a friend who does these kinds of installations and he initially set up mine. He is good at at innovating non-standard set-ups and would not have trouble with yours. He travels around a bit and spends half of each year in Europe. I don't know if he could do yours. It would depend on your respective locations when you wanted it done but I can get in touch with him for you if you are interested. When he is here he usually bases himself in Hawke's Bay but sometimes he is in other parts of the country.

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#1399165 2-Oct-2015 23:10

For some reason I cannot quote B1GGLZ's post but he is right. Sky is on D1. My memory plays tricks on me sometimes.

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#1399172 2-Oct-2015 23:35

No real contribution towards this post, but are both you guys Dutch or do you have Dutch heritage?
I can't see any other reason to watch BVN :P

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#1399203 3-Oct-2015 08:39

Yes for me. Can't speak for Floydbloke.

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#1399204 3-Oct-2015 08:43

ScuL: No real contribution towards this post, but are both you guys Dutch or do you have Dutch heritage?
I can't see any other reason to watch BVN :P

Born and bred in Vlissingen, Zeeland. Lived there until I was 16. (That was 34 years ago. I'm still a Dutch citizen though, don't have a NZ pasport.)
My main reason for wanting BVN is to watch Studio Sport Eredivisie, which is geoblocked on NOS.NL (There are ways around this of course, and I'm exploring options). BVN.TV also let's me watch it online but the highest resolution is 320 x 240.

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#1399209 3-Oct-2015 09:02

I also have NOS unblocked. It is easy to do. I use Unotelly.

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#1399240 3-Oct-2015 10:34

I just posted another suggestion but then deleted it when I realised it wouldn't work. I keep thinking Sky is on D2 for some reason.

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#1399515 4-Oct-2015 00:15

Oh nice, I'm a Dutch passport holder too, but a relative newbie to NZ (5 months and counting now).

I can receive every Dutch (and many other European) channels, streaming across fibre because I've set up a box specifically for this purpose at my parents house in NL.
See this
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumId=34&topicId=161659

This won't help you of course.. I've put quite a bit of money in it, maybe $1200 but the result is so awesome. I can change Dutch channels through Kodi just as if I was sat in the Netherlands, albeit with a minor delay.

If you wish to combine Sky & BVN you need either a Multi-LNB set up, two dishes with a diseqc box or a motorised install.
I think for your purpose and intent, option 2 is the best. Option 1 will be difficult on the standard Sky dish as it is quite small and not fit for purpose.
Motorising a Sky dish isn't great either.
I would get a cheap 60cm dish with a fresh LNB (I can recommend Inverto, great LNBs) and feed it via a diseqc switch.

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#1399561 4-Oct-2015 08:29

Welkom. Sounds like you have a nice set-up. I can't get the Dutch channels the way you can, but I can stream anything that is VOD and that is also pretty good. I don't see the need for two satellite dishes. Mine is a little bigger than the standard Sky ones, 80 cm, but I have three LNBs on it (four if you count the dual one) and I could squeeze another. I really think you ought to be able to get two on a 60 cm dish (dual LNB for Sky and Freeview on D1, second LNB for BVN on D2). Floydbloke may already have a dual LNB because he says he gets Sky and Freeview off his dish with the current set-up.

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