FOUR Plus 1, PRIME and Edge TV Migrates to New Frequency

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#195743 2-May-2016 12:59

PRIME, FOUR plus 1 & THE EDGE TV are migrating to a brand new frequency starting TUE 14 JUNE.

Time to rescan those satellite receivers (and make sure to do this by TUE 14 JUN) to continue watching these channels! ( Currently not sure what the Transponder is - Yet to confirm)

Most Freeview Satellite receivers will automatically rescan but other receivers will need manual retuning.

Instructions will be made available here: www.freeview.co.nz

Please note that on TUE 22 JUNE, the old PRIME service, FOUR plus 1, & The Edge TV service will no longer be available.

- See more at: http://www.tv3.co.nz/FOUR-Plus-1-Migrates-to-New-Frequency/tabid/2983/articleID/126412/Default.aspx#sthash.VkuMsLQR.dpuf

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#1545352 2-May-2016 13:01

Further details will be published as they get in as I have only heard about this about 20 minutes ago via sources.
I am preparing Freeview Forum so detailed info on receivers etc.. to ensure it will not cause the 2013 Prime dilemma.

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#1545359 2-May-2016 13:07

joshhill96:

Further details will be published as they get in as I have only heard about this about 20 minutes ago via sources.
I am preparing Freeview Forum so detailed info on receivers etc.. to ensure it will not cause the 2013 Prime dilemma.

Any chance that this reshuffle will free up capacity to move more channels to HD?

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#1545366 2-May-2016 13:24

ockel:

joshhill96:

Further details will be published as they get in as I have only heard about this about 20 minutes ago via sources.
I am preparing Freeview Forum so detailed info on receivers etc.. to ensure it will not cause the 2013 Prime dilemma.

Any chance that this reshuffle will free up capacity to move more channels to HD?

I am unsure of the shuffle or motive, the current channels are on SKY owned TPs so capacity on the Freeview (KORDIA) transponders are still unaffected.

SKY is migrating from MPEG2 to MPEG4 with a DVBS2 encoder on their standard channels. while Freeview channels will need to remain so it works on all Freeview Receivers since 2006. HD would be a warm welcome however to get the HD channels all there needs to be is a signed deal to include in the transport stream for HD Freeview Satellite units to redirect the TV One, TV2 and TV3, Prime HD channels to the one currently om SKY. (Unencrypted of cause).

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#1545416 2-May-2016 15:39

ockel:

joshhill96:

Further details will be published as they get in as I have only heard about this about 20 minutes ago via sources.
I am preparing Freeview Forum so detailed info on receivers etc.. to ensure it will not cause the 2013 Prime dilemma.

Any chance that this reshuffle will free up capacity to move more channels to HD?

Not just by reshuffling the channels no... but what that then allows, yes!

This will merely be a move by SKY to consolidate the channels it transmits for Freeview on it's transponders (Edge TV and Four plus 1 on 12644 MHz, Prime on 12707 MHz) onto a single transponder, that will remain DVB-S/MPEG2.

After this has been done and SKY complete the rollout of their new decoders they are then free to change all their transponders to DVB-S2/MPEG4. The effect of this is two-fold:

1 - The more efficient MPEG4 will allow more channels in the same bandwidth (assuming same quality) thereby freeing some capacity.

2 - All the 'duplicate' SD channels can now be eliminated as they can now simply receive the HD signal and 'downscale' to SD. This frees A LOT of capacity. Given there are currently 20 or so permanent HD channels, (along with 5-6 temporary HD 'Pop-Up' channels), this will free up (approximately) two whole transponders!

Hopefully this means not only that we'll see more channels in HD, but also see an improvement it the quality of all (even SD) channels!

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#1546483 4-May-2016 09:33

I am waiting on a full report and list from SKY about these changes which will allow all manufacturers of approved products to complete a firmware or adjustment so the move is seamless and working with a range of people on Freeview Forum so that things are seamless.

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#1548051 7-May-2016 21:14

There appears to be 3 Colour bar channels on Freq 12519 H 22500 so might be the new allocation of the channels, but SKY has not confirmed this yet.

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#1548519 9-May-2016 09:26

I did a manual scan and I got 3 channels labeled

Test 1

Test 2

Test 3

with a continuous tone sound for audio

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#1549562 10-May-2016 22:54

SKY will terminate the regional satellite feeds on 12707 and combine to 1 feed on the 12519 TP along with the move of Edge TV and Four Plus 1

Test 1 will be PRIME (SD) SID: 1530 PID: 8183 VPID: 1013 AID: 1113
Test 2 will be FOUR PLUS1 (SD) SID: 1510 PID: 8184 VPID: 1014 AID: 1114
Test 3 will be Edge TV(SD) SID: 1511 PID: 8185 VPID: 1015 AID: 1115

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#1551559 12-May-2016 15:37

Surprised at the SID changes for EdgeTV and FOUR +1, otherwise makes sense to collapse down the regional feeds of Prime.

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#1551808 12-May-2016 21:58

How about they scrap the regional versions of TV1 and TV3 aswell and use the freed up bandwidth to bring HD to Freeview?

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#1551825 12-May-2016 22:30

peterds: How about they scrap the regional versions of TV1 and TV3 aswell and use the freed up bandwidth to bring HD to Freeview?

That would anger their customers who would have to pay to advertise to people that are too far from them to be any use.

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#1551828 12-May-2016 22:49

peterds: How about they scrap the regional versions of TV1 and TV3 aswell and use the freed up bandwidth to bring HD to Freeview?

Mediaworks will be doing this in July however details will be released further closer to the time, TV3 will be using one feed

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#1559206 25-May-2016 10:29

Hi Guys,

Just letting you know that the changes are happening today starting at 12pm

Please head to http://freeviewforum.co.nz/page/prime-sat-changes for instructions

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#1559241 25-May-2016 11:08

Bummer, I got all excited about freeing up bandwidth for the rumoured talk about Prime going HD at some point on terrestrial as obviously glossed over the reference to satellite. That is unless someone has heard something I haven't?

Would be good to have it in HD with a new season of Top Gear and the Olympics coming up.

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#1559379 25-May-2016 14:04

Groucho:

Bummer, I got all excited about freeing up bandwidth for the rumoured talk about Prime going HD at some point on terrestrial as obviously glossed over the reference to satellite. That is unless someone has heard something I haven't?

Would be good to have it in HD with a new season of Top Gear and the Olympics coming up.

PRIME is not going to be in HD immediately after this change; SKY has yet to share with us [Freeview] their plans to broadcast PRIME in HD but tells us that this change does not preclude the delivery of PRIME in HD for Freeview viewers.

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