TV3 De-Regionalisation July 2016

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#198080 25-Jun-2016 15:42

Hi All

Just a heads up with some changes to the DTH & DTT TV3 feeds effective from Monday 4th July 2016.

TV3 will de-regionalise the following streams: Waikato / BOP, Lower North Island & South Island

This change affects both platforms and may require you to rescan your device after this date to get the single TV3 Auckland feed.

These changes are made by Mediaworks and not from Freeview and HD and SD channels should be aligned together for one national feed.

These changes free up capacity on DTH could possibly increase the bandwidth of TV3 which was reduced in quality back in 2012.

I have been given a table dump of changes happening across the networks up to 11th July so will see if I can release the other channel changes.

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#1585634 4-Jul-2016 14:09

This is now in effect. If you see a blue screen. Retune

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#1585820 4-Jul-2016 19:28

DTT terrestrial boxes/TV's are fine and will not need retuning for TV3.

DTH satellite boxes that are freeview approved retune automatically to the remaining nationwide TV3.

Other sat boxes that were tuned into the TV3 Waikato, Central, or Southern regions will need to be manually retuned. The four TV3s on D1 will be found, only the first one has program on it.

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#1585833 4-Jul-2016 19:51

Do we know anything about the motivation for this? I would have thought that regionalisation would be quite an important feature for them to be offering to their advertisers.

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#1585981 4-Jul-2016 23:14

alasta:

Do we know anything about the motivation for this? I would have thought that regionalisation would be quite an important feature for them to be offering to their advertisers.

Quality of picture on satellite is probably the biggest motivator here. There was a real issue with four regions sharing the satellite space. It should look much better once it's down to one. But only guessing, who knows....

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#1586017 5-Jul-2016 07:29

alasta:
Do we know anything about the motivation for this? I would have thought that regionalisation would be quite an important feature for them to be offering to their advertisers.

Maybe to free up band width for another bunch of +1 +2 +3 +4 and even more stunning reality TV.

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#1586626 5-Jul-2016 19:08

Image quality is no different when I looked the 3 regional feeds are still playing an info screen and are probably set in the encoder alloacted 3 or 4 mbits each. So no freed up bandwidth as yet.

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#1586627 5-Jul-2016 19:16

Probably done to coincide with them having everything streamed and not wanting to have to explain to people why the ads are different on stream to what is over the air.

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#1586938 6-Jul-2016 09:28

Apsattv:

Image quality is no different when I looked the 3 regional feeds are still playing an info screen and are probably set in the encoder alloacted 3 or 4 mbits each. So no freed up bandwidth as yet.

The place holder feeds are only running at 700Kbps, so taking about 2.1Mbps combined. The single feed from TV3 is now running at 3-4Mbps which is around the same as TV One and TV 2.

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#1586969 6-Jul-2016 10:12

alasta:

Do we know anything about the motivation for this? I would have thought that regionalisation would be quite an important feature for them to be offering to their advertisers.

Yes, Mediaworks has told me , though I won't be sharing on the reason why though

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#1587086 6-Jul-2016 13:13

joshhill96:

alasta:

Do we know anything about the motivation for this? I would have thought that regionalisation would be quite an important feature for them to be offering to their advertisers.

Yes, Mediaworks has told me , though I won't be sharing on the reason why though

Let me guess - canning the regions saves more money than they make through regional advertising?

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#1587090 6-Jul-2016 13:15

Also with the impending mpeg4 and dvbs2 swap on sky won't all the other stuff have to come back to the 2 free view transponders?

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#1587094 6-Jul-2016 13:23

richms: Also with the impending mpeg4 and dvbs2 swap on sky won't all the other stuff have to come back to the 2 free view transponders?

Perhaps. But my guess is Sky will leave one lone orphan transponder on DVB-S to continue to transmit Prime to the Freeview platform. Hence the recent consolidation of Edge TV, Four plus 1 (now Bravo plus 1) and Prime (also de-regionalised to a single national feed) onto the same transponder, when they previously were on 3 different transponders.

Will probably move all the radio stations and other 'service' channels there too as they have no real benefit in the transition to DVB-S2 and Mpeg4.

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#1587107 6-Jul-2016 13:50

richms: Also with the impending mpeg4 and dvbs2 swap on sky won't all the other stuff have to come back to the 2 free view transponders?

At the moment there are only 3 Transponders which is used for Freeview 2 Kordia ones and 1 Sky which now houses the new Prime, Bravo Plus 1 and Edge TV. Where before May we had 4. So changes that have happened now allow the MPEG4 switch to be completed without affecting Freeview users. SKY won't shift the 3 FTA channels back to Kordia, there are contracts in place which prevents this.

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#1587112 6-Jul-2016 13:55

Bear in mind that TVSN, YESSHOP, AL JAZEERA are FTA channels which are encrypted for SKY Basic as well as TV ONE, 2 AND 3 HD. SKY might deal or move these channels to 12519 (For the SD channels) and possibly unlock the HD streams and encode data so that DVBS2 Freeview devices can use these versions. (My own personal guess and opinion) And to note, Freeview now requires all satellite devices to be DVBS2 HD Capable.

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#1587251 6-Jul-2016 18:41

joshhill96:

Bear in mind that TVSN, YESSHOP, AL JAZEERA are FTA channels which are encrypted for SKY Basic as well as TV ONE, 2 AND 3 HD. SKY might deal or move these channels to 12519 (For the SD channels) and possibly unlock the HD streams and encode data so that DVBS2 Freeview devices can use these versions. (My own personal guess and opinion) And to note, Freeview now requires all satellite devices to be DVBS2 HD Capable.

Why would they unlock the HD DVB-S2 that they put up?

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