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#24929 7-Aug-2008 08:44
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Have noticed that when they cross to Mark or Simon in Beijing it looks really sharp and detailed compared to the local stuff. Could they be using HD cameras and broadcasting this in HD?

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  #154889 7-Aug-2008 10:52
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Yeah apparently all the beijing footage is in HD 1080I i think, or was it P and surround sound on Freeview HD only
I saw it broadcasting in the local Dick Smiths, but they had it downscaling on a 720P Tv from a freeview HD decoder, so I tried swapping the HDMI cables when the guy wasn't looking to the 1080P TV, but accidentally reset half the TVs, then proceeding to quietly walk off...




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  #154903 7-Aug-2008 11:43
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ha ha classic.

Yeah the picture when they cross to Beijing is def way better then the usual upscaled stuff. I'm recording the opening ceremony as I am currently installing a projector in my new house so will watch it on Sunday in 95" of HD goodness!

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  #154921 7-Aug-2008 12:42
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nice one, I've done something similar - troublesome geeks!!!



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  #154952 7-Aug-2008 14:09
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95"!!!! Damn :(
I'll only be watching it on a 32" LCD TV hooked upto my HTPC, 95" would probably be the whole wall of my bedroom




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  #154967 7-Aug-2008 15:07
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Apparently the feed from Beijing to TVNZ is 1080i. TVNZ will then downscale that to 720p for broadcast on TV1, SD for Sport Extra, and whatever resolutions they're going to use for the online streams.

Everything on TV1 is currently still in SD, including the news, so the difference in quality you saw is all down to better quality source material, rather than an HD broadcast.

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  #155316 8-Aug-2008 20:21
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Jarno: Apparently the feed from Beijing to TVNZ is 1080i. TVNZ will then downscale that to 720p for broadcast on TV1, SD for Sport Extra, and whatever resolutions they're going to use for the online streams.


Damn, so that means that the opening ceremony is going to be in 720p???
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  #155319 8-Aug-2008 20:35
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stu28:

Jarno: Apparently the feed from Beijing to TVNZ is 1080i. TVNZ will then downscale that to 720p for broadcast on TV1, SD for Sport Extra, and whatever resolutions they're going to use for the online streams.


Damn, so that means that the opening ceremony is going to be in 720p??? Frown



And the issue is? Many people (including myself) will tell you that 720p is far better than 1080i



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  #155330 8-Aug-2008 21:53
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Get a grip people, by the time a 1920x1080 capture has been through a serious mpeg reduction to make it fit into a 10Mb/s mpeg4 stream there is such an amount of prefiltering involved that no one can tell the difference between a 720 or 1080, reality folks, just get a grip.

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  #155346 9-Aug-2008 00:46
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cyril7: Get a grip people, by the time a 1920x1080 capture has been through a serious mpeg reduction to make it fit into a 10Mb/s mpeg4 stream there is such an amount of prefiltering involved that no one can tell the difference between a 720 or 1080, reality folks, just get a grip.

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Newbie question... is it better to buy a tv with 1920x1080 so branded as 1080 or stick with something that is not badged with 1080i because I sense alot of what may be tx to the tv will be lower res 720??

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  #155347 9-Aug-2008 01:01
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You could look at getting a new tv with integrated freeview HD tuner. All of sony's are 1080p panels.

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  #155350 9-Aug-2008 02:53
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TV1 seem to be using live pause to fit in ad breaks, I'm watching it on Sport Extra where there isn't ad breaks, have noticed the time difference is now around 50 mins behind on TV1, sport extra is live.

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  #155361 9-Aug-2008 09:04
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Newbie question... is it better to buy a tv with 1920x1080 so branded as 1080 or stick with something that is not badged with 1080i because I sense alot of what may be tx to the tv will be lower res 720??


There is more than must pure resolution that makes a display good. Obviously if you are buying at a certain price point its going to be full 1920x1080. However I currently see some of the best pictures coming off panny 8/80series which are only 1024x768. As I said before what real life resolution gets to your panel after mpeg coding and what your eye can resolve on a 42 or 50" display are not always as the retailers would like to make you spend up to.

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  #155411 9-Aug-2008 15:26
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cyril7:
Newbie question... is it better to buy a tv with 1920x1080 so branded as 1080 or stick with something that is not badged with 1080i because I sense alot of what may be tx to the tv will be lower res 720??


There is more than must pure resolution that makes a display good. Obviously if you are buying at a certain price point its going to be full 1920x1080. However I currently see some of the best pictures coming off panny 8/80series which are only 1024x768. As I said before what real life resolution gets to your panel after mpeg coding and what your eye can resolve on a 42 or 50" display are not always as the retailers would like to make you spend up to.

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I agree bang for buck the panasonic plasmas are the best value and new models are now out, or samsung if you insist on  LCD or want something smaller.

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  #155844 11-Aug-2008 11:42
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Hey just wanted to say - what an awesome show.
My feedback to TVNZ would be - freshen up your presentation team, the dinosaurs look even more ancient in HD!
Also - some messages flicking up on Sports Extra noting what TVI is showing live would be cool, enjoyed being able to watch the cycle races uninterrupted but it looked so much better in HD, so we were constantly flicking back to see whether TV1 was covering it live..... eventually they did.
Really cool use of the new technology all the hiccups aside... I can see many more hours in front of the box ahead of us the next few weeks.

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  #155874 11-Aug-2008 13:04
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ajst2duk: Hey just wanted to say - what an awesome show.
My feedback to TVNZ would be - freshen up your presentation team, the dinosaurs look even more ancient in HD!


You did know that Tony Veitch was supposed to be the main presenter right?

ajst2duk:Also - some messages flicking up on Sports Extra noting what TVI is showing live would be cool, enjoyed being able to watch the cycle races uninterrupted but it looked so much better in HD, so we were constantly flicking back to see whether TV1 was covering it live..... eventually they did.
Really cool use of the new technology all the hiccups aside... I can see many more hours in front of the box ahead of us the next few weeks.


I agree, that is a bit annoying. Regarding hiccups, are others getting the occasional pauses? It was particularily bad during the cycling yesterday.

Also, watching Spots Extra at 4.30am getting ready for uni (!) they had an overlay, somthing about the show about the change, up for at least 5 minutes. It wasn't relevant and blocked the action.

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