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Topic # 27089 14-Oct-2008 10:36
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Hi, mates,

I have moved into a new flat with sky dish install in the roof. but its cable's end goes down into the bottom of the flat. It is an old flat and I do not want to
go into the ground space, too dark and full of spiders.  But I found that some part of cable is the outside surface of the house where I can reach. can I cut the cable and reconnect it to a new cable, so tha I can have new connection into my living room? can I do that?

Before I have set up the dreambox for free2view in apartment, but now I need to the dish to dreambox directly. Is there anything I need to take care ?

thanks in advance.

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  Reply # 171034 14-Oct-2008 10:42
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Hi, is there someone using the dish feed in elsewhere in the building, if so then simply cutting the cable to connect in might need some diplomacy and negotiation.

Essentially yes you can cut the cable, install a splitter and run a feed to your STB, however ensure its done with properly and with good quality connectors and the whole job made weather tight otherwise Sky may bill you to sort it out especially if someone else in the building is also using the feed and you upset their reception.

The dish at this new building may have a different LO frequency, normally apartments have a standard 11300 LO, however this one may be 10750, also check that the LNB power is on.

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  Reply # 171048 14-Oct-2008 11:35
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Hi,

You don't give all the info about the flat, like is it a single level house, or are you on the ground floor but there's a flat abouve etc?  As Cyril says, is anyone else using the same cable from the dish?

If it's just your house that this dish supplies, do you know where the cable comes up from beneath the floor?  It's quite common to run the cable from the roof down the side of the house and then to poke it underneath and bring it up in the room you need it in. 

If you know where it comes up, and this is not in the right location, you can take/cut off the existing end connector and push the cable back through the hole.  Then go outside and pull on the cable where it goes into/under the house.  If you're lucky you'll get the whole underneath length back outside and you can then do with it what you want.  If you need to pull too hard though you may damage the cable but you may get lucky.  Ideally though you'd want to bring it back up in the room you now want it in, but this may involve spiders.

Failing all this, yes you can cut and join a new piece on outside, but really it would be nicer/better to run a new length from the dish itself.  Watch for the lnb frequency as Cyril mentions, it may be different to last time, and make sure the lnb power is set to on in your system, as before it may not have needed to be on.

Good luck.

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  Reply # 171061 14-Oct-2008 12:29
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Even reading about your dark spaces filled with spiders makes my skin crawl....

Get a mate who is not afraid of spiders to crawl under the house for you.  Just don't call me...



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  Reply # 171073 14-Oct-2008 13:59
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cyril7: Hi, is there someone using the dish feed in elsewhere in the building, if so then simply cutting the cable to connect in might need some diplomacy and negotiation.

Essentially yes you can cut the cable, install a splitter and run a feed to your STB, however ensure its done with properly and with good quality connectors and the whole job made weather tight otherwise Sky may bill you to sort it out especially if someone else in the building is also using the feed and you upset their reception.

The dish at this new building may have a different LO frequency, normally apartments have a standard 11300 LO, however this one may be 10750, also check that the LNB power is on.

Cyril


thanks
 I have asked the neighbors, they all have their own dish. The one in my roof is left by the previous tenants.  So it means that dish is only for me.



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  Reply # 171075 14-Oct-2008 14:04
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Jaxson: Hi,

You don't give all the info about the flat, like is it a single level house, or are you on the ground floor but there's a flat abouve etc?  As Cyril says, is anyone else using the same cable from the dish?

If it's just your house that this dish supplies, do you know where the cable comes up from beneath the floor?  It's quite common to run the cable from the roof down the side of the house and then to poke it underneath and bring it up in the room you need it in. 

If you know where it comes up, and this is not in the right location, you can take/cut off the existing end connector and push the cable back through the hole.  Then go outside and pull on the cable where it goes into/under the house.  If you're lucky you'll get the whole underneath length back outside and you can then do with it what you want.  If you need to pull too hard though you may damage the cable but you may get lucky.  Ideally though you'd want to bring it back up in the room you now want it in, but this may involve spiders.

Failing all this, yes you can cut and join a new piece on outside, but really it would be nicer/better to run a new length from the dish itself.  Watch for the lnb frequency as Cyril mentions, it may be different to last time, and make sure the lnb power is set to on in your system, as before it may not have needed to be on.

Good luck.


thanks for reminder of spider. Yes my neightbor has told me that one is only for me. It is an old flat with three units. I prefer to cut it and rebuild a connection. Because I check the room, i did not find the cable. Before I move in, the landload has decorated the house, it may be buried down into ground floor and has not been brought up at all.



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  Reply # 171077 14-Oct-2008 14:36
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cyril7: Hi, is there someone using the dish feed in elsewhere in the building, if so then simply cutting the cable to connect in might need some diplomacy and negotiation.

Essentially yes you can cut the cable, install a splitter and run a feed to your STB, however ensure its done with properly and with good quality connectors and the whole job made weather tight otherwise Sky may bill you to sort it out especially if someone else in the building is also using the feed and you upset their reception.

The dish at this new building may have a different LO frequency, normally apartments have a standard 11300 LO, however this one may be 10750, also check that the LNB power is on.

Cyril


one more question about LNB, how to check it is on or not. LNB needs to be connected to external power or just switch on that?

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  Reply # 171078 14-Oct-2008 14:41
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Hi, the LNB power is provided up the cable from the STB, so in the Dreambox setup you must ensure that its turned on, cannot remember off the top of my head what the setup page in a dreambox is like, but it should be obvious.

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  Reply # 171079 14-Oct-2008 14:43
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cyril7: Hi, the LNB power is provided up the cable from the STB, so in the Dreambox setup you must ensure that its turned on, cannot remember off the top of my head what the setup page in a dreambox is like, but it should be obvious.

Cyril


I see, thanks!



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  Reply # 171153 14-Oct-2008 20:45
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cyril7: Hi, the LNB power is provided up the cable from the STB, so in the Dreambox setup you must ensure that its turned on, cannot remember off the top of my head what the setup page in a dreambox is like, but it should be obvious.

Cyril


Hi cyrill


the LNB should in dreambox should be H/V or 14v or 18V?

I can not lock the satallite. i set loF/L to 10750 LoF/H 10750 and threshold 10750....

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  Reply # 171173 14-Oct-2008 22:35
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Hi, the LNB should be set to H, 18V, and the threshold to 12750 although if bith L and H setting are 10750 then it should also work. Obviously your LNB could be a 11300 one, if it has a round not oval face then it is 11300.

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  Reply # 171233 15-Oct-2008 10:19
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cyril7: Hi, the LNB should be set to H, 18V, and the threshold to 12750 although if bith L and H setting are 10750 then it should also work. Obviously your LNB could be a 11300 one, if it has a round not oval face then it is 11300.

Cyril


hi, Cyril,

Thanks for your reply, I plug the cable into my TV. I get the signal out of the cable. So this cable should have signal. There are also VHF antenna in the roof. So it may be connected to antenna. Are they using the same cable? black one?


The dish is round one, dark gray and small one. So you mean LNB voltage should be 18v? not H/V? am I right?

the LOF/H, LOF/L and  threshold should be 10750, 10750, 11300 respectively?

Sorry to ask you so in details because I am totally out of this field.

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  Reply # 171259 15-Oct-2008 12:17
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Hi, its not normal but can be that your VHF antenna is diplexed with the feed from the dish, but normally are run on seperate cables, you need to establish if this is so. If you plug an VHF antenna which includes a balun into your Dreambox it will most likely short the DC supply. The supply should be set to 18V which selects Hpol, I cannot remember what the settings are in the Dreambox, mine is not on at the moment.

You say you plug the cable from the dish into the TV surely you mean the DreamBox.

The LOF/L and LOF/L should be 10750, the threshold 12750 should be fine. If you have an 11300 LNB round face lnb (not the dish but the face of the LNB) then LOF/L and LOF/H shoud be 11300 threshold still 12750.

Cyril



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  Reply # 171283 15-Oct-2008 14:00
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cyril7: Hi, its not normal but can be that your VHF antenna is diplexed with the feed from the dish, but normally are run on seperate cables, you need to establish if this is so. If you plug an VHF antenna which includes a balun into your Dreambox it will most likely short the DC supply. The supply should be set to 18V which selects Hpol, I cannot remember what the settings are in the Dreambox, mine is not on at the moment.

You say you plug the cable from the dish into the TV surely you mean the DreamBox.

The LOF/L and LOF/L should be 10750, the threshold 12750 should be fine. If you have an 11300 LNB round face lnb (not the dish but the face of the LNB) then LOF/L and LOF/H shoud be 11300 threshold still 12750.

Cyril


Thanks Cyril.

Then should be dish cable since my dreambox is still working. When I say I plug the cable from dish into TV, I mean direcetly connect the dish cable to TV without dreamBOX. Then I can use TV auto search function to find channel. I just want to be sure there is signal coming down the cable. The other setting I follow the bartender's blog. I will double check my dish and cable again.

Thanks mate!



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  Reply # 171435 16-Oct-2008 09:55
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saikit:
cyril7: Hi, its not normal but can be that your VHF antenna is diplexed with the feed from the dish, but normally are run on seperate cables, you need to establish if this is so. If you plug an VHF antenna which includes a balun into your Dreambox it will most likely short the DC supply. The supply should be set to 18V which selects Hpol, I cannot remember what the settings are in the Dreambox, mine is not on at the moment.

You say you plug the cable from the dish into the TV surely you mean the DreamBox.

The LOF/L and LOF/L should be 10750, the threshold 12750 should be fine. If you have an 11300 LNB round face lnb (not the dish but the face of the LNB) then LOF/L and LOF/H shoud be 11300 threshold still 12750.

Cyril


Thanks Cyril.

Then should be dish cable since my dreambox is still working. When I say I plug the cable from dish into TV, I mean direcetly connect the dish cable to TV without dreamBOX. Then I can use TV auto search function to find channel. I just want to be sure there is signal coming down the cable. The other setting I follow the bartender's blog. I will double check my dish and cable again.

Thanks mate!


Hi I did not check the cable carefully.. The cable I used to plug inot dreambox is annra cable, not dish cable. The dish cable is quite dirty and can not see the lable on that, but it is white. The cable for annera is black. Are they the same cable? can they be connected together because there is long enough black cable in my roof..

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  Reply # 171436 16-Oct-2008 10:00
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Hi, the dish cable will be RG6, the black antenna cable maybe RG6, if so thats fine, but if its RG59 it should not be used for satellite signals as there is too much loss.

Cyril

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