Freeview on uncertified TV - (Kogan RF9220 TV)

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#279722 3-Nov-2020 17:48

Just wondering if anyone has experience getting freeview on uncertified equipment - specifically on any of the Kogan range of TVs? From my conversations with support they should receive UHF and Satellite signals, are there any other issues that I could run into setting the free to air tv up? I believe this model is made for the Australian market.

Any replies are greatly appreciated, cheers.

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#2597226 3-Nov-2020 19:04

It has no satellite (DVB-S/S2) tuner.

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#2597298 3-Nov-2020 21:35

Hmm, the specs don't mention it but talking to their online support they explicitly confirmed it supported satellite. Have you got one yourself?

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#2597333 3-Nov-2020 23:59

Based on my other interactions with their online support with product queries, they wouldnt know what the product is or what it does.

They only seem to sell a tiny amount of product to NZ as well,

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#2597335 4-Nov-2020 00:16

I didn't think Australia's DVB-T terrestrial broadcast system was compatible with New Zealand's. Satellite Freeview is only in MPEG-2 standard definition.

Knowing the state of super budget TVs I'd pay money not to have to watch them. If I didn't have $800 to buy something decent new I'd be buying second hand.

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#2597347 4-Nov-2020 05:52

Worst case scenario, you could treat it just as a monitor and use the Freeview streaming dongle.

https://freeviewnz.tv/stream-freeview?gclid=CjwKCAiAnIT9BRAmEiwANaoE1RmF5oqFMzv0kkigkIw2zs3REmkzxR7NSs0PJT2JIUg1ZJ_um02VyRoC8jkQAvD_BwE

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#2597365 4-Nov-2020 07:54

bfginger:

I didn't think Australia's DVB-T terrestrial broadcast system was compatible with New Zealand's. Satellite Freeview is only in MPEG-2 standard definition.

Knowing the state of super budget TVs I'd pay money not to have to watch them. If I didn't have $800 to buy something decent new I'd be buying second hand.

I am not not with current state of Australian Broadcasting but digital TV was MPEG-2 but their freeview was MPEG-4. ( digital TV was different to freeview, digital was the usual broadcasters offering but in ghost free high def )

The freeview standard in Australia did not have MHEG5 middleware i.e. program guide, you only used to get now and next data, this was to encourage you to buy freeview approved devices and I believe Freeview NZ charged handsomely for the privilege of testing and approval.

This may have been fixed that you get a weeks worth of data.

To the OP, the TV should work here without issue, you may not get the good TV guide however.

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#2597376 4-Nov-2020 08:45

Have Kogan said they're uncertified?

As dodgy as they can be it would just seem surprising they'd bother selling TV's into the NZ market (and presumably carrying stock and shipping from NZ based on their shipping prices) if they didn't work properly here.

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#2597382 4-Nov-2020 08:58

richms:

Based on my other interactions with their online support with product queries, they wouldnt know what the product is or what it does.

Agreed.

They slap their name on everything but have no clue about the products.

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#2597386 4-Nov-2020 09:05

We have the smaller 32" model of the same series (RF9210 I think?). No, it doesn't have a DVB/S tuner, so if you want a satellite source, you'll need a set top box or similar external device. It does support DVB-T, but we don't have an aerial so I've never actually tried to tune it - we just use it as a cheap streaming/casting device so wasn't really a consideration.

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#2597587 4-Nov-2020 12:57

xpd:

richms:

Based on my other interactions with their online support with product queries, they wouldnt know what the product is or what it does.

Agreed.

They slap their name on everything but have no clue about the products.

I would be inclined to agree - although in this case they did send the question to a relevant department and I received the response: "Also, for your second query, this TV supports dish satellite"

So I would be pretty pissed if they would send a response like this and it turns out not to be the case - at least I have this in writing so if it turns out not to function I should be able to get a refund as they have misrepresented the product - Hopefully.

I agree it is strange they don't mention the dvb-s tuner in the product listing...

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#2597590 4-Nov-2020 13:03

Inphinity:

We have the smaller 32" model of the same series (RF9210 I think?). No, it doesn't have a DVB/S tuner, so if you want a satellite source, you'll need a set top box or similar external device. It does support DVB-T, but we don't have an aerial so I've never actually tried to tune it - we just use it as a cheap streaming/casting device so wasn't really a consideration.

Hmm, thanks heaps for the response - that model should be similar if it was purchased recently. Have you tried to set it up with a satellite input? Or just referring to the specs?

Other than that how is your experience? Does the Android TV OS work smoothly? Annoyingly they don't have physical stores so there's no way for me to test it myself & video reviews are scarce..

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#2597593 4-Nov-2020 13:25

sbiddle:

Have Kogan said they're uncertified?

As dodgy as they can be it would just seem surprising they'd bother selling TV's into the NZ market (and presumably carrying stock and shipping from NZ based on their shipping prices) if they didn't work properly here.

They just don't mention anything about freeview in the listing - previously they have had Freeview products but I imagine they have dropped going through the hassle of getting them certified with Freeview NZ and being able to mention the name..

As far as I'm aware though if it has the right tuner it should pick up the signals..

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#2597603 4-Nov-2020 13:31

SATTV:

bfginger:

I didn't think Australia's DVB-T terrestrial broadcast system was compatible with New Zealand's. Satellite Freeview is only in MPEG-2 standard definition.

Knowing the state of super budget TVs I'd pay money not to have to watch them. If I didn't have $800 to buy something decent new I'd be buying second hand.

I am not not with current state of Australian Broadcasting but digital TV was MPEG-2 but their freeview was MPEG-4. ( digital TV was different to freeview, digital was the usual broadcasters offering but in ghost free high def )

The freeview standard in Australia did not have MHEG5 middleware i.e. program guide, you only used to get now and next data, this was to encourage you to buy freeview approved devices and I believe Freeview NZ charged handsomely for the privilege of testing and approval.

This may have been fixed that you get a weeks worth of data.

To the OP, the TV should work here without issue, you may not get the good TV guide however.

John

Thanks a bunch for the response - that sounds about right, I'm prepared to not have some of the digital TV features considering the price. Who actually spends their time watching free to air tv anyway...

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#2597611 4-Nov-2020 13:47

Android TV is IMHO an incredibly polarising product - people either love it or hate it. I fall in the later and would never purchase a TV that used it as the operating system.

If you haven't used an Android TV before and plan on this being your main TV it would be worth finding somebody who has one and having a play with it.

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#2597691 4-Nov-2020 15:15

It is a real shame we've not seen Roku based sets appear here in NZ. A lot of international tech reviews rave about the UI

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