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#28599 5-Dec-2008 11:53
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Anyone know if/when this is coming to TV3?

The current season has only been on a few weeks, and is filmed in HD.

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  #182275 5-Dec-2008 13:07
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So were the previous two seasons but that doesn't mean TV3 is going to show them in HD. Strange when they have shown a lot of US shows in HD (well from memory CSI Miami, CSI NY, NCIS, Womens Murder Club, Bones)




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  #182282 5-Dec-2008 13:18
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It's one of the things that's pee me off here is new programs that are rel;eased in HD in the US are shown here as SD.  Cutting costs now that Mediaworks is owned by Ozz bean counters??




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  #182284 5-Dec-2008 13:19
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I'd say it's a money thing at this stage.  TV3 has little competition in the HD market really at the mo, they are leading the way.  Surely it must cost more for a HD 5.1 source than a standard resolution one.  I'm not sure on the figures but I'd say the easily majority of the country is still on analogue systems.  In some way TV3 probably get little return for their HD purchases.  If the show is good writing/casting/production quality etc we'll watch it either way, if it's not good should we watch it because it's in higher res + surround sound?

Does look and sound cool though aye!

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  #182301 5-Dec-2008 14:15
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I'd watch house if it was HD, but since it isn't I can't be bothered, just feel it's a let down so I won't reward them for not providing the best they can with upping their ratings by a very small fraction of a per cent.

I am watching hero's as finding story line very good so far, House is good to, I'm just not as compelled to watch it.

I remember reading some where that sky said to get movies in HD costs them no more then SD. If that's the case I'm surprised if it costs TV3 more to get series HD, they're alredy paying for bandwidth space on transmission whether use it or don't.

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  #182311 5-Dec-2008 14:50
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Makes me want to download it. But I shall refrain.

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rugrat: ..

I remember reading some where that sky said to get movies in HD costs them no more then SD. If that's the case I'm surprised if it costs TV3 more to get series HD, they're alredy paying for bandwidth space on transmission whether use it or don't.


I would find it hard to believe that a HD version of a show would cost more than the SD version. The show is shot in HD, SFX are done in HD and final versions created for distribution (HD 1080i/50 1080i/60, SD etc.). The only reason the HD version would cost more is if the studio wanted to charge more which is possible I guess. For movies it's easier to rationalise. Most movies probably have a SD scan out there (even if it's just the master used to create the DVD). To get a HD version might require re-scanning the film and/or taking an original HD scan and recoding it for TV transmission.

Still no excuse since TV3 has shown a great deal of HD content (relatively). Bought dreck like 90201 in HD and then relegated it to C4 and House is a guaranteed ratings winner.




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  #182324 5-Dec-2008 15:41
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Somebody might want to ask the question in the "ask Mediaworks" thread.


 
 
 
 


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  #182334 5-Dec-2008 15:57
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Yeah was just thinking that but that thread is locked now. 

I remember someone saying that all film transfers are in HD anyway and this is used to create any other media releases such as DVDs etc.  That would mean creating bluray versions of films should be fairly quick if you just want a standard copy, not enhanced/restored etc.

I'd like to know if there were any cost differences between purchasing a show in HD format vs. SD.  I'm sure there would be but it would be interesting to know.  Heroes for instance is not in HD even though it clearly is available in this format.

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  #182337 5-Dec-2008 16:06
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Slightly OT but Heroes is actually shot on 3-perf 35mm film with Panavision G2 cameras and on 4-perf 35mm film with the Panavision Millennium XL. The film is telecined simultaneously to D5 and DVCAM 30i formats and finished at 24 fps on D5 tape.

No idea how House is shot but I suspect similarly. Production companies still seem to prefer film since at least there's only one standard!




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  #182352 5-Dec-2008 17:20
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lchiu7:
rugrat: ..

I remember reading some where that sky said to get movies in HD costs them no more then SD. If that's the case I'm surprised if it costs TV3 more to get series HD, they're alredy paying for bandwidth space on transmission whether use it or don't.


I would find it hard to believe that a HD version of a show would cost more than the SD version. The show is shot in HD, SFX are done in HD and final versions created for distribution (HD 1080i/50 1080i/60, SD etc.). The only reason the HD version would cost more is if the studio wanted to charge more which is possible I guess.


Apparently,Universal were charging an"HD Premium" which is why Heros is not in HD.


For movies it's easier to rationalise. Most movies probably have a SD scan out there (even if it's just the master used to create the DVD). To get a HD version might require re-scanning the film and/or taking an original HD scan and recoding it for TV transmission.

Still no excuse since TV3 has shown a great deal of HD content (relatively). Bought dreck like 90201 in HD and then relegated it to C4 and House is a guaranteed ratings winner.

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  #182354 5-Dec-2008 17:24
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rugrat: I'd watch house if it was HD, but since it isn't I can't be bothered, just feel it's a let down so I won't reward them for not providing the best they can with upping their ratings by a very small fraction of a per cent.

I am watching hero's as finding story line very good so far, House is good to, I'm just not as compelled to watch it.

I remember reading some where that sky said to get movies in HD costs them no more then SD. If that's the case I'm surprised if it costs TV3 more to get series HD, they're alredy paying for bandwidth space on transmission whether use it or don't.



I'm afraid unless you're one of the 500 odd people on the panel,then it wont make any difference

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  #182383 5-Dec-2008 21:54
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Tomorrow night's movie on TV3 is in HD according to their site (High Crimes). Might be worth a watch and/or record.




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lchiu7:
I would find it hard to believe that a HD version of a show would cost more than the SD version. The show is shot in HD, SFX are done in HD and final versions created for distribution (HD 1080i/50 1080i/60, SD etc.). The only reason the HD version would cost more is if the studio wanted to charge more which is possible I guess.


swap "possible" for "probable".  if you can make more money by selling something as a 'premium' product then why wouldnt you.  hell they can probably then sell the same show twice - once to an HD network and once to an SD network.  Just because they have to do extra work to reformat the HD to SD doesnt mean they're not going to get that investment back (it probably isn't even *that* much work really, compared to going the other way....) 




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More evidence it's a cost issue. TV3 is showing Cane in HD and 5.1 late on Monday night. That show lasted 13 eps in the US so I am guessing the studios are giving it away!  Also they are showing some show called Life is Wild in HD 5.1 at 1pm each day. No idea what that is but once again cheap was probably the reason it was purchased!




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I'm a little mystified by this thread - is House not in HD now?  The picture on last week's show was simply stunning on my 46" set.

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