Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Forums › Freeview (DVB-T/DVB-S) › The Sound of Music in HD on TV3 on 31/12 - PAL pitch question


4975 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 105

Trusted

Topic # 29253 30-Dec-2008 19:38
Send private message

This is family favourite and since it's being advertised as being in HD will record it. The  OTA broadcast will be in PAL of course and so sped up 4% which really annoys me with musicals. But since PAL/NTSC don't really exist in HD, will the HD version be sped up or be at the right pitch? I guess I won't know till I record it and play it back.

Anybody with any insights into this question?

Thanks

Larry




System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


My Google+ page 

 

 

 

https://plus.google.com/+laurencechiu

 

 

Create new topic
2096 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 357

Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 186738 30-Dec-2008 20:38
Send private message

Although the HD symbol was on advert I don't think it will be HD. Advert certainly wasn't and not tagged on their own website's TV schedule as HD. Sound will be 5.1 however. Sad though as I would have watched too. They have falsely advertised like this on previous occasions.




Ross

 

Spark FibreMAX using Mikrotik CCR1009-8G-1S-1S+

 


Speed Test



4975 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 105

Trusted

  Reply # 186741 30-Dec-2008 20:54
Send private message

If that is the case then I will stick to my NTSC laserdisc version :)  It's not out on BD yet HD version would have to be a special transfer.




System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


My Google+ page 

 

 

 

https://plus.google.com/+laurencechiu

 

 

 
 
 
 


27270 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 6699

Moderator
Trusted
Biddle Corp
Lifetime subscriber

  Reply # 186747 30-Dec-2008 21:12
Send private message

The http://www.throng.co.nz/movies/sound-music-hdmentions HD as well.

Freeview XML guide has hd="n"



4975 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 105

Trusted

  Reply # 186748 30-Dec-2008 21:22
Send private message

Oh well - tomorrow night and we will all be the wise. Now assuming it's HD (or even not but upscaled) will it be sped up 4% or be at the right speed for the movie?

[edit]

On careful reflection it will be sped up since TV3 will be broadcasting 1080i/50 not 1080/60. Anyway it would be tricky for their HD broadcast version to run 4% slower than their SD transmission!  Oh well - will have to wait for a BD release

[edit]

Looks like there is a HD transfer out there which was used for the DVD release but of course, the DVD wasn't able to take advantage of the 1920x1080 scan. Described here

Sound of Music Transfer

[edit]

Happy New Year! And it was in HD (well the HD 5.1 Surround logo came up) and it was pitched up 4% which made it somewhat annoying




System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


My Google+ page 

 

 

 

https://plus.google.com/+laurencechiu

 

 

139 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 53


  Reply # 186886 1-Jan-2009 07:48
Send private message

Was it actually broadcast in 5.1? I haven't heard a 5.1 transmission on Freeview as I have been mostly away since I bought the DSE box. However, all my receiver could actually detect was a 2.0 PCM signal. This was irrespective of any selections I tried to make on the STB. (STB > Yammy RXV 3800 by HDMI)

Would appreciate confirmation of what the audio broadcast was. Thanks



4975 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 105

Trusted

  Reply # 186889 1-Jan-2009 08:42
Send private message

Not sure if it was true 5.1 but this is what mediainfo says about the captured recording

General #0
ID                           : 1
Complete name                : The Sound Of Music_20081231_19302245.ts
Format                       : MPEG-4 Transport
Format/Family                : MPEG-4
File size                    : 15.3 GiB
PlayTime                     : 3h 17mn
Bit rate                     : 11.1 Mbps

Video #0
ID                           : 450 (0x1C2)
MenuID/String                : 1300 (0x514)
Codec                        : AVC
Codec/Family                 : AVC
Codec/Info                   : Advanced Video Codec
Codec profile                : High@L4.0
Codec settings, CABAC        : Yes
Codec_Settings_RefFrames     : 4
PlayTime                     : 3h 17mn
Maximum bit rate             : 10.7 Mbps
Width                        : 1920 pixels
Height                       : 1080 pixels
Display Aspect ratio         : 16/9
Frame rate                   : 25.000 fps
Chroma                       : 4:2:0
Interlacement                : Top Field First

Audio #0
ID                           : 400 (0x190)
MenuID/String                : 1300 (0x514)
Codec                        : AAC
Codec/Family                 : AAC
Maximum bit rate             : 108 Kbps
Video0 delay                 : -410ms
Language                     : English

Audio #1
ID                           : 410 (0x19A)
MenuID/String                : 1300 (0x514)
Codec                        : AC3
Bit rate mode                : CBR
Bit rate                     : 384 Kbps
Maximum bit rate             : 432 Kbps
Channel(s)                   : 6 channels
Channel positions            : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                : 48.0 KHz
Video0 delay                 : -537ms
Language                     : English


Certainly on my Popcorn I have to select AC3 to hear anything since the Popcorn can't play the AAC audio track




System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


My Google+ page 

 

 

 

https://plus.google.com/+laurencechiu

 

 

139 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 53


  Reply # 186892 1-Jan-2009 08:57
Send private message

Thanks.

Audio #1
ID                           : 410 (0x19A)
MenuID/String                : 1300 (0x514)
Codec                        : AC3
Bit rate mode                : CBR
Bit rate                     : 384 Kbps
Maximum bit rate             : 432 Kbps
Channel(s)                   : 6 channels
Channel positions            : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                : 48.0 KHz
Video0 delay                 : -537ms
Language                     : English

Looks like 5.1 to me. Can't understand why I couldn't access it though on my bog standard DSE STB?

134 posts

Master Geek


  Reply # 186900 1-Jan-2009 11:46
Send private message

It didn't sound like 5.1 to me... No sound from my rear speakers.



4975 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 105

Trusted

  Reply # 186901 1-Jan-2009 12:06
Send private message

Actually sounded like 2.0 since I don't hear sound from the centre speaker either. So they broadcast the 5.1 carrier or whatever but no 5.1 content. Passing it through DPLII processing sounded fine though. Also didn't really look like HD either. Oh well....




System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


My Google+ page 

 

 

 

https://plus.google.com/+laurencechiu

 

 

139 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 53


  Reply # 186904 1-Jan-2009 12:54
Send private message

Thanks Guys, I think that has clarified it for me. Cheers



4975 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 105

Trusted

  Reply # 186993 2-Jan-2009 11:53
Send private message

I wish the BD would come out. At the moment have been spending time (which could have been spent more profitably elsewhere!) compressing the 10G capture file, deleting the ads, slowing down the audio by 4% and remuxing back with slowed video! And after all that it wasn't really HD that I could tell and as noted, it certainly wasn't 5.1




System One: Popcorn Hour A200,  PS3 SuperSlim, NPVR and Plex Server running on Gigabyte Brix (Windows 10 Pro), Sony BDP-S390 BD player, Pioneer AVR, Raspberry Pi running Kodi and Plex, Panasonic 60" 3D plasma, Google Chromecast

System Two: Popcorn Hour A200 ,  Oppo BDP-80 BluRay Player with hardware mode to be region free, Vivitek HD1080P 1080P DLP projector with 100" screen. Harman Kardon HK AVR 254 7.1 receiver, Samsung 4K player, Google Chromecast

 


My Google+ page 

 

 

 

https://plus.google.com/+laurencechiu

 

 

Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Geekzone Live »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron


Updates »

Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.