The Sound of Music in HD on TV3 on 31/12

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Topic # 29253 30-Dec-2008 19:38

This is family favourite and since it's being advertised as being in HD will record it. The OTA broadcast will be in PAL of course and so sped up 4% which really annoys me with musicals. But since PAL/NTSC don't really exist in HD, will the HD version be sped up or be at the right pitch? I guess I won't know till I record it and play it back.

Anybody with any insights into this question?

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Reply # 186738 30-Dec-2008 20:38

Although the HD symbol was on advert I don't think it will be HD. Advert certainly wasn't and not tagged on their own website's TV schedule as HD. Sound will be 5.1 however. Sad though as I would have watched too. They have falsely advertised like this on previous occasions.

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Reply # 186741 30-Dec-2008 20:54

If that is the case then I will stick to my NTSC laserdisc version :) It's not out on BD yet HD version would have to be a special transfer.

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Reply # 186747 30-Dec-2008 21:12

The http://www.throng.co.nz/movies/sound-music-hdmentions HD as well.

Freeview XML guide has hd="n"

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Reply # 186748 30-Dec-2008 21:22

Oh well - tomorrow night and we will all be the wise. Now assuming it's HD (or even not but upscaled) will it be sped up 4% or be at the right speed for the movie?

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On careful reflection it will be sped up since TV3 will be broadcasting 1080i/50 not 1080/60. Anyway it would be tricky for their HD broadcast version to run 4% slower than their SD transmission! Oh well - will have to wait for a BD release

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Looks like there is a HD transfer out there which was used for the DVD release but of course, the DVD wasn't able to take advantage of the 1920x1080 scan. Described here

Sound of Music Transfer

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Happy New Year! And it was in HD (well the HD 5.1 Surround logo came up) and it was pitched up 4% which made it somewhat annoying

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Reply # 186886 1-Jan-2009 07:48

Was it actually broadcast in 5.1? I haven't heard a 5.1 transmission on Freeview as I have been mostly away since I bought the DSE box. However, all my receiver could actually detect was a 2.0 PCM signal. This was irrespective of any selections I tried to make on the STB. (STB > Yammy RXV 3800 by HDMI)

Would appreciate confirmation of what the audio broadcast was. Thanks

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Reply # 186889 1-Jan-2009 08:42

Not sure if it was true 5.1 but this is what mediainfo says about the captured recording

General #0
ID                           : 1
Complete name                : The Sound Of Music_20081231_19302245.ts
Format                       : MPEG-4 Transport
Format/Family                : MPEG-4
File size                    : 15.3 GiB
PlayTime                     : 3h 17mn
Bit rate                     : 11.1 Mbps

Video #0
ID                           : 450 (0x1C2)
MenuID/String                : 1300 (0x514)
Codec                        : AVC
Codec/Family                 : AVC
Codec/Info                   : Advanced Video Codec
Codec profile                : High@L4.0
Codec settings, CABAC        : Yes
Codec_Settings_RefFrames     : 4
PlayTime                     : 3h 17mn
Maximum bit rate             : 10.7 Mbps
Width                        : 1920 pixels
Height                       : 1080 pixels
Display Aspect ratio         : 16/9
Frame rate                   : 25.000 fps
Chroma                       : 4:2:0
Interlacement                : Top Field First

Audio #0
ID                           : 400 (0x190)
MenuID/String                : 1300 (0x514)
Codec                        : AAC
Codec/Family                 : AAC
Maximum bit rate             : 108 Kbps
Video0 delay                 : -410ms
Language                     : English

Audio #1
ID                           : 410 (0x19A)
MenuID/String                : 1300 (0x514)
Codec                        : AC3
Bit rate mode                : CBR
Bit rate                     : 384 Kbps
Maximum bit rate             : 432 Kbps
Channel(s)                   : 6 channels
Channel positions            : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                : 48.0 KHz
Video0 delay                 : -537ms
Language                     : English

Certainly on my Popcorn I have to select AC3 to hear anything since the Popcorn can't play the AAC audio track

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Reply # 186892 1-Jan-2009 08:57

Thanks.

Audio #1
ID                           : 410 (0x19A)
MenuID/String                : 1300 (0x514)
Codec                        : AC3
Bit rate mode                : CBR
Bit rate                     : 384 Kbps
Maximum bit rate             : 432 Kbps
Channel(s)                   : 6 channels
Channel positions            : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate                : 48.0 KHz
Video0 delay                 : -537ms
Language                     : English

Looks like 5.1 to me. Can't understand why I couldn't access it though on my bog standard DSE STB?

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Reply # 186900 1-Jan-2009 11:46

It didn't sound like 5.1 to me... No sound from my rear speakers.

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Reply # 186901 1-Jan-2009 12:06

Actually sounded like 2.0 since I don't hear sound from the centre speaker either. So they broadcast the 5.1 carrier or whatever but no 5.1 content. Passing it through DPLII processing sounded fine though. Also didn't really look like HD either. Oh well....

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Reply # 186904 1-Jan-2009 12:54

Thanks Guys, I think that has clarified it for me. Cheers

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Reply # 186993 2-Jan-2009 11:53

I wish the BD would come out. At the moment have been spending time (which could have been spent more profitably elsewhere!) compressing the 10G capture file, deleting the ads, slowing down the audio by 4% and remuxing back with slowed video! And after all that it wasn't really HD that I could tell and as noted, it certainly wasn't 5.1

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