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Topic # 32387 16-Apr-2009 10:22
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I'm looking at  Freeview Cards. The text all say very carefully

Record Digital

Record Analogue


Which cards can record both at the same time
Which cards can record one while watching the other.

I was looking at tha Hauppauge TVR3000/4000

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  Reply # 207246 16-Apr-2009 10:30
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marsheng: I'm looking at  Freeview Cards. The text all say very carefully

Record Digital

Record Analogue


Which cards can record both at the same time
Which cards can record one while watching the other.

I was looking at tha Hauppauge TVR3000/4000


If you want analogue forget about the HVR3000 and HVR4000. These cards do not have onboard MPEG2 encoders for analogue and don't deliver great results. They are also only single tuner cards - despite supporting analogue, digital terrestrial and satellite you can only use one at a time.

There are reastically only two cards that meet your needs, a Hauppauge HVR2200 or a Black Gold (which you will have to import yourself).




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  Reply # 207270 16-Apr-2009 12:20
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Just a point of clarification.  When you say 'digital', are you referring to Freeview|HD (terrestrial via a UHF aerial) or Freeview Satellite (standard def via a satellite dish)?

 
 
 
 




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  Reply # 207271 16-Apr-2009 12:21
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I I forgot to add, I need a remote controller. I'm bastcally trying to replace my DVD Recorder/receiver.



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  Reply # 207272 16-Apr-2009 12:23
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I'm looking at Freeview.

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  Reply # 207274 16-Apr-2009 12:25
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marsheng: I'm looking at Freeview.


Freeview hd (via aerial) or freeview SD ( via satilite)

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  Reply # 207275 16-Apr-2009 12:26
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marsheng: I'm looking at Freeview.


Yes, that was a given.  But are you looking at Freeview|HD or Freeview Satellite?  There is a big difference.  If you don't know the difference then pay a visit to the Freeview site for more info.



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  Reply # 207280 16-Apr-2009 12:36
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Freeview hd (via aerial) Thanks.

I've looked up Black Gold on the web  but cant seem to find which one is suitable.

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  Reply # 207302 16-Apr-2009 13:41
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I would look at the HVR2200 it is known to work and to be reliable. I know some people have imported the black gold and got it to work but not sure if it is worth the effort really.
Also wasn't there some concerns a little while back were the web site went off line?

Just be aware that the 2200 is a PCIe 1X card so you need a spare PCIe slot.

The 2200 has two tuners which can either be assigned to digial or analogue ie. Digital - digital or digial - analogue or analogue - analogue







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  Reply # 207304 16-Apr-2009 14:04
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Nety: I would look at the HVR2200 it is known to work and to be reliable. I know some people have imported the black gold and got it to work but not sure if it is worth the effort really.
Also wasn't there some concerns a little while back were the web site went off line?

Just be aware that the 2200 is a PCIe 1X card so you need a spare PCIe slot.

The 2200 has two tuners which can either be assigned to digial or analogue ie. Digital - digital or digial - analogue or analogue - analogue


And to add to nety, there is no PCI equivalent card that can do both freeview|HD and Analog at the same time.

To do similar via PCI you would need the Nova t 500 (Dual DVB-T Card) and a PVR500 (dual Analog - or for single analog a PVR150).

The PVR150 though comes with a remote blaster for controlling your other device - potentially - you have to check what devices it supports.








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  Reply # 207350 16-Apr-2009 17:45
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marsheng: I forgot to add, I need a remote controller.
One of these will probably fit the bill. The remote is supplied with an Infra red receiver that plugs into your computer's USB ports. Hauppauge Media Centre Remote Control Depending on what media centre software you use the remote will either work straight out of the box, or can be persuaded to you what you need using some free software. 

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  Reply # 207579 17-Apr-2009 14:09
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davidcole:
And to add to nety, there is no PCI equivalent card that can do both freeview|HD and Analog at the same time.

To do similar via PCI you would need the Nova t 500 (Dual DVB-T Card) and a PVR500 (dual Analog - or for single analog a PVR150).

The PVR150 though comes with a remote blaster for controlling your other device - potentially - you have to check what devices it supports.



Actually, there is a PCI card sold by Blackgold in the U.K that does this.  Their website was down but a newer version is back up now.

https://www.btowstore.com/epages/BT3159.sf/sec_f_orkQv9EA/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3159/Categories/%22Retail%20Products%22/PCI_Tuners

Basically, they have a PCI or a PCI-E version like the HVR-2200 except they have more varied hardware encoding (Record to MPEG 1\2\4, DiVX or VC1). There is also component input for something like a sky box (instead of plain 'ol s-video Smile ). Looks quite interesting, I was trying to drum up a few people to buy the cards but didn't have much luck. Didn't want to pay all the shipping myself as it made the cost a little to high so I ended up getting the HVR-2200. 

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  Reply # 207593 17-Apr-2009 14:52
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While it may have component/s-video inputs I dont think it has an audio input so you cant use it with an stb. I bought the BGT3540 6 in 1 card hoping for a one stop shop (freeview both kinds and sky stb) but ended up having to buy a pvr-150 for sky.

Happy with the twin dvb/t, dvb/s and analogue tuners on it though




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  Reply # 207602 17-Apr-2009 15:15
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I looked up the Black Gold website and I see it says

Freeview (DVB-T) or analogue terrestrial but not Freeview (DVB-T) and analogue terrestrial.

I have I read this incorrectly ?




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  Reply # 207604 17-Apr-2009 15:18
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Asmodeus: While it may have component/s-video inputs I dont think it has an audio input so you cant use it with an stb. I bought the BGT3540 6 in 1 card hoping for a one stop shop (freeview both kinds and sky stb) but ended up having to buy a pvr-150 for sky.

Happy with the twin dvb/t, dvb/s and analogue tuners on it though


Yeah, I specifically asked about that as I saw the issues those of you with the 3540 had.
After a couple of emails they semed to indicate that there is 2 audio pins in the s-video connection to allow sound. Bit bizarre, and as far as I was concerned it made having the component inputs useless (unless there was a way to get the video from the component and the sound from the s-video).

From BlackGold:

The card does have sound inputs. There are extra connections on the S-Video socket for sound input, or as you mention pin headers on the card.

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The S-Video connector with additional pins for audio input uses the standard format. So a standard adaptor can purchased with RCA phono inputs.


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  Reply # 207615 17-Apr-2009 15:29
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marsheng: I looked up the Black Gold website and I see it says
Freeview (DVB-T) or analogue terrestrial but not Freeview (DVB-T) and analogue terrestrial.

I have I read this incorrectly ?




Does it say somewhere "but not Freeview (DVB-T) and analogue terrestrial."? I can't see it but may have missed it.
I guess the best bet is to ask them.

Please note, on the hauppauge website reads similiar:


WinTV-HVR-2200 MC features
Dual Digital or Analogue TV

Nothing about being able to do one and the other at the same time either, but we know it works :-)



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