A very misleading Trademe auction

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# 35962 17-Jun-2009 16:48

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/TVs/Satellite-receivers/auction-224105978.htm

The seller claims that this comes with instructions to receive Prime and under the list of Freeview channels lists a movie channel. Very misleading, I wonder how it decrypts Prime?
Check out the seller though, at a guess Cordlessman is the ever dodgy Pete from Satlink.

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# 225872 17-Jun-2009 16:55

Its not misleading, it has instructions on how to receive prime, " Get Sky installed and voila you have Prime "

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# 225875 17-Jun-2009 17:00

kiwitrc: Its not misleading, it has instructions on how to receive prime, " Get Sky installed and voila you have Prime "

That wouldn't surprise me!!! lol

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# 225877 17-Jun-2009 17:02

I miss Pete in here :( He was really good at winding people up.

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# 225885 17-Jun-2009 17:40

I've been looking at Freeview, and am so totally and utterly confused that I've given up for now, but I was looking at another of his products:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/TVs/Other/auction-224223145.htm
Also available here: http://www.freeviewshop.co.nz/terrestrial-receivers-c-1.html (same guy?)

Anyone know anything about them? I'd prefer to bowl on in to DSE for their offerings, but at $100+ more, ouch! Quitting telstra was supposed to save me money lol.

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# 225898 17-Jun-2009 18:01

Hi Nicki, yes same box. Are you after Terrestrial or satellite? His sat boxes are very good, never had a problem.

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# 225901 17-Jun-2009 18:08

kiwitrc: Hi Nicki, yes same box. Are you after Terrestrial or satellite? His sat boxes are very good, never had a problem.

Awesome, cheers for the tip, I need terrestrial. Flirted with the idea of going all out and getting a recorder, but I wouldn't really use it at the moment, so looking for the cheapest product, that is of reasonable quality, I can find.

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# 225930 17-Jun-2009 19:12

Check the trademe ad now, I was right!!!

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# 226003 17-Jun-2009 22:28

Can this unit receive Prime as well? ab747 (125 ) 4:56 pm, Wed 17 Jun
no, we tell you how to ...after sale...sky supplies dish and Rx for Prime...$145 6:46 pm, Wed 17 Jun
How can you get Prime with this unit? basawasa (37 ) 5:14 pm, Wed 17 Jun
instructions with unit after sale...simple....costs $145'ish from Sky...they supply you dish and Rx....

unless sky/prime has changed their policy they wont supply a dish and receiver for prime only if you live in an area with UHF reception. they will, however, do a reasonable deal on a UHF aerial installation.

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9. If you live where Prime’s UHF signal is available, installation of a UHF aerial and tune-in will cost $145 including GST. (Some pockets within UHF transmission areas do not receive good reception due to terrain or obstructions such as trees, buildings etc. Making use of one of Primes special satellite offers below via SKYs digital platform remedies this. The technician will advise accordingly when he visits your home).

10. If you live where Prime’s UHF signal is not available, you can now install a SKY Digital dish and decoder, with the Prime Television service only, at a cost of $145 including GST. (The decoder rental will be waived for this connection).

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# 226647 19-Jun-2009 12:12

Man that sux, What if you want prime in widescreen!

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# 226766 19-Jun-2009 16:55

Actually if there is no UHF antenna on the place, its a prick to put one in and there is already a dish there, the installers will often decide that they cant install UHF and to just plug in the locked down subscribed sat box instead.

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# 226799 19-Jun-2009 18:00

I asked, sounded weird, It must have a pass-through or something boring like that, nothing beats the dreambox, pop in the legal skycard and bingo, Sky and freeview (as well as LAN streaming, advanced EPG, PVR support and all the fancy stuff)

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# 227326 22-Jun-2009 11:58

WaffleMakerMan: Man that sux, What if you want prime in widescreen!

UHF is obviously 4:3 aspect so it's probably cropped/stretched.

Hey just to check, is Prime broadcast in widescreen off the satellite if you have sky digital? If it is, then why don't SKY just unencrypt prime on the satellite, being a free to air channel and all, much like they currently do with TV1 and TV2 channels. (well I probably do know why they don't, but that would be a quick fix for the population with a satellite dish at least, without having to move Prime onto the freeview UHF platform initially).

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# 227557 22-Jun-2009 22:24

Jaxson:
WaffleMakerMan: Man that sux, What if you want prime in widescreen!
UHF is obviously 4:3 aspect so it's probably cropped/stretched.

Hey just to check, is Prime broadcast in widescreen off the satellite if you have sky digital? If it is, then why don't SKY just unencrypt prime on the satellite, being a free to air channel and all, much like they currently do with TV1 and TV2 channels. (well I probably do know why they don't, but that would be a quick fix for the population with a satellite dish at least, without having to move Prime onto the freeview UHF platform initially).

unless something has changed, the SKY re-broadcasts of TV1 and TV2 are encrypted too.

i get your point though - why don't they just unencrypt them....

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# 227634 23-Jun-2009 09:49

Regs: unless something has changed, the SKY re-broadcasts of TV1 and TV2 are encrypted too.

i get your point though - why don't they just unencrypt them....

Nah right now you can get TV1 and TV2 off the Sky satellite feed free to air, they are not encrypted.

Currently this is the way to go as the SKY TV1 and TV2 feeds are better quality than the freeview equivalent as freeview has started up the regional broadcasting of TV1, so there's like 4 or 5 TV1 channels being broadcast right now, pretty much in the same bandwidth that was originally alloted to just one TV1.

My take is simply if Prime is free to air, then why not un encrypt the sky satellite feed and bingo, you've now allowed access to anyone who can't get prime uhf.

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# 227635 23-Jun-2009 09:53

FYI http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=225119280

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