This is why sport on FTA is a bad idea

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#36656 30-Jun-2009 09:03

TVNZ have the rights to Wimbeldon, but instead of showing Andy Murray v Stanislas Wawrinka (a five set good game), they cut to their inane Breakfast show.

Leave the stuff like this to Sky, at least they do a proper job.

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#229445 30-Jun-2009 09:14

But you pay a large premium for Sky to do so.....
Want things for free, theres going to be some catch....

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#229449 30-Jun-2009 09:17

exactly why i'd rather pay. NZ FTA channels have a track record of covering sporting events badly.

it's not even on Sports Extra either, get your act together TVNZ

oh well, at least they've got it online.

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#229450 30-Jun-2009 09:22

allstarnz: TVNZ have the rights to Wimbeldon, but instead of showing Andy Murray v Stanislas Wawrinka (a five set good game), they cut to their inane Breakfast show.

Leave the stuff like this to Sky, at least they do a proper job.

This is what Sports Extra on Freeview was supposed to be for, now it’s gone from the satellite & set to disappear off the terrestrial feeds.

Freeview have managed their channels badly, they could have leased the sports channel to play DW, CCTV9 etc when there was no sport on for a reduced cost, and the channel would have made money for them, but instead Freeview were greedy and wanted to charge the likes of DW a fortune to rebroadcast there signal & no one has opted to go on Freeview.

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#229452 30-Jun-2009 09:29

With FTA sport at best there is going to be heavily laden commercial content. Think ads between overs/drinks breaks, etc etc. Ever watched Channel 9 Origin coverage? Ad-breaks at almost every minor stoppage in play.

In my mind thats far worse than ponying up for un-interrupted sports coverage. And of course the pay operator re-broadcasts some events delayed on Prime for those that cant or wont pay for it.

I'm all for specialisation ... let each do what it does well.

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#229454 30-Jun-2009 09:35

Biggles69:
allstarnz: TVNZ have the rights to Wimbeldon, but instead of showing Andy Murray v Stanislas Wawrinka (a five set good game), they cut to their inane Breakfast show.

Leave the stuff like this to Sky, at least they do a proper job.

This is what Sports Extra on Freeview was supposed to be for, now it’s gone from the satellite & set to disappear off the terrestrial feeds.
Freeview have managed their channels badly, they could have leased the sports channel to play DW, CCTV9 etc when there was no sport on for a reduced cost, and the channel would have made money for them, but instead Freeview were greedy and wanted to charge the likes of DW a fortune to rebroadcast there signal & no one has opted to go on Freeview.

I agree, I asked DW why they don't broadcast on Ku band in NZ, they said it wasn't economical :(

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#229455 30-Jun-2009 09:36

allstarnz: exactly why i'd rather pay. NZ FTA channels have a track record of covering sporting events badly.

I'd be happy with a happy medium, like free to air with delayed start or the same start but drawn out with ads so they finish an hour apart or something. We're too small a country to have two full blown pay outfits, but we could deal with this by having some delayed free to air content so people could make a choice. That's the part that's missing at the mo, there's no choice, you either pay sky or you miss out.

Formula One is the case for me. Either pay sky or wait a whole week to get highlights on Prime, which is broadcast on UHF only so some areas don't get it, or have to pay sky another $150 to setup a dish.

Sky used to offer a $37 per month sky sport 1, sky 1 uhf package, but with the move to sky digital only, the min to get sky sport is now like $66 per month, which is almost double the cost.

There is a monopoly in NZ, but there are ways we could work with both I think.

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#229465 30-Jun-2009 10:06

I don't see Bernie saying, "Here, take my Formula One coverage for nix"

You get what you pay for, so quit moaning.

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#229471 30-Jun-2009 10:18

I'm happy with Sky's F1 coverage, all free practices (live where possible), qualifying and race.

the only thing it lacks is pre-race studio like TV One used to do. Clint Brown and Bob McMurray in studio, or even better BBC pre-race coverage.

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#229474 30-Jun-2009 10:21

So perhaps the anti-siphoning legislation in Australia and other countries is required for those who cannot afford the $66 per month. Let's have some balance.

I agree that TVNZ are doing a bad job on the sporting front, and not usiong the Sport Extra channel as they should - however TV3 are doing a better job with the V8 racing from Australia - moving it on to C4 when the news comes on to TV3.

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#229482 30-Jun-2009 10:35

@allstarnz

couldn't agree with you more - french open coverage on sky sportsnz was excellent too.

TVOne don't even have a 30-60 minutes highlights show for Wimbledon.

The breakfast show is good but live sport has got to take priority or at the very least be shown somewhere, why buy the rights if you aren't goint to show the big games!

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#229486 30-Jun-2009 10:46

I couldn't even get the online Wimbledon to work this morning so I missed the Andy Murray game too.
I also thought there was no hour long Wimbledon highlights but it looks like there is now at 3pm today on TVOne according to their online guide at tvnz.co.nz

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#229492 30-Jun-2009 11:01

thanks neilinnz - lets hope they keep that slot for highlights! if only i could set myskyhdi to record through my iphone/pc as in the uk...

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#229623 30-Jun-2009 16:53

so what happens if they have an epic 5 set final like last year? it'll get bumped because Ilovemyself Henry needs to have his Breakfast show?

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#229638 30-Jun-2009 17:23

From TV, correct, but you can stream it online....
..but no HD and it will eat into you monthly data allowance!

Really good idea to put Wimbledon to TV One, so everyone can get it rather than the select few who pay for sky. Oh wait a minute - nobody gets to watch it (in HD) if goes on past 7pm... that's inclusive...

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#229654 30-Jun-2009 17:42

crumpers: From TV, correct, but you can stream it online....

..but no HD and it will eat into you monthly data allowance!

Really good idea to put Wimbledon to TV One, so everyone can get it rather than the select few who pay for sky. Oh wait a minute - nobody gets to watch it (in HD) if goes on past 7pm... that's inclusive...

Doesn't eat into your allowance if you are with orcon.

As for the bigger matches like the final, I'd be surprised if they didn't extend the coverage.

Yes it is a shame that TVNZ 6/7 or Sports Extra aren't used more for an event like this.

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