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Topic # 60839 4-May-2010 11:32
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So this is old news but I can't seem to find any real discussion on the matter from a Freeview viewer forum/point of view.

So do you guys that went for the Freeview platform feel a bit cheated by stakeholder TVNZ?

The channel may end up being yet another piece of crap but this decision (obviously commercial) is a kick in the guts for those that believed the Freeview hype.

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  Reply # 326359 4-May-2010 11:36
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  Reply # 326361 4-May-2010 11:39
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ahmad: So this is old news but I can't seem to find any real discussion on the matter from a Freeview viewer forum/point of view.

So do you guys that went for the Freeview platform feel a bit cheated by stakeholder TVNZ?

The channel may end up being yet another piece of crap but this decision (obviously commercial) is a kick in the guts for those that believed the Freeview hype.


This is the National party - pure and simple.  

They don't like Freeview. They want you to pay for anything and everything - Market Forces.

There is no other reason. The FTA vision was Labour's. National don't like stuff that's good for everyone. That isn't a theory. It's a proven fact and you've cited one more example of evidence to support it.

I don't think that is a political statement as much as it is a statement that accurately describes their approach to anything communal - like "Freeview".

Their idea of perfection is SKY, wher we all pay $1000 / year to watch crap...instead of seeing crap for free.  




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  Reply # 326367 4-May-2010 11:47
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Linuxluver: Their idea of perfection is SKY, wher we all pay $1000 / year to watch crap...instead of seeing crap for free.  

Someone has to pay for it.  If I didn't watch TV, I'd rather only those that watched it paid for it rather than everybody paying for it.



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Reply # 326375 4-May-2010 11:54
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LOL National party responsible :rolleyes:

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  Reply # 326542 4-May-2010 16:31
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Is it part of the base package, or is it a separate add on?

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  Reply # 326581 4-May-2010 18:54
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Part of the base package. I read some where a while ago that Sky is paying TVNZ something like 50 cents per subscriber per month, so as a Sky subscriber it'll be added onto my sub whether want to watch it or not. Programmes repeats of mucking in,intrepid Journeys, Burying Brian, Taste NZ don't interest me. Glad TV3 not got their new music channel there as already have plently music choice, would rather HeartLand be freeview only as well.

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  Reply # 326585 4-May-2010 19:07
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So if TVNZ are able to turn their old crap into an earner of 50c a subscriber, then thats a much better idea than them paying to put it onto freeview IMO, since as taxpayers we are all propping up any more failed ventures by TVNZ.




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  Reply # 326591 4-May-2010 19:21
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yep, Tax payers laughing all the way to the bank. Only people negatively effected are sky subscribers that have no interest in channel but like myself pay to get stuff that are interested in. Only around 50 cents month a subscriber, but accross all subscribers it'll be 100's of thousands dollars a month for TVNZ. Sky prices go up next month, oops that the same time new channel starts.

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  Reply # 326592 4-May-2010 19:22
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richms: So if TVNZ are able to turn their old crap into an earner of 50c a subscriber, then thats a much better idea than them paying to put it onto freeview IMO, since as taxpayers we are all propping up any more failed ventures by TVNZ.

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If this new channel actually makes money for State Owned Enterprise TVNZ then isn't that better than possibly losing money by putting it on FTA? As a taxpayer I encourage it's success.

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  Reply # 326602 4-May-2010 19:59
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It's a TVNZ Pay TV channel - it's not a FTA channel. I don't see what the issue is really.

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  Reply # 326654 4-May-2010 21:32
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rugrat: ...that the same time new channel starts.


Oh, so it hasn't actually started on Sky yet?

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  Reply # 326912 5-May-2010 13:52
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Satch:
rugrat: ...that the same time new channel starts.


Oh, so it hasn't actually started on Sky yet?


No, 1st June.

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  Reply # 338351 4-Jun-2010 18:00
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TVNZ chose to put Heartland on the Sky platform for several reasons (none of which have to do with the National government). 

1) The channel was deemed not to be commercially viable using advertising alone, by combining advertising with subscription fees from Sky TVNZ can make a profit from day one. Heartland is a commercial venture, pure and simple, its a good way to make some cash using cheap archive material that would otherwise sit around gathering dust.

2) The TVNZ mux, both on DTH and DTT is essentially full, any more channels added to TVNZ's freeview service will degrade the quality of TVNZ's existing channels.  

3) Heartland is a good way for TVNZ to improve its relationship with Sky, which has been pretty rocky in the last few years. The NZ broadcasting industry is pretty small, and we all need to learn how to get along. Pooling resources reduces costs and benefits everyone.

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  Reply # 338360 4-Jun-2010 19:47
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tehconz: TVNZ chose to put Heartland on the Sky platform for several reasons (none of which have to do with the National government). 

2) The TVNZ mux, both on DTH and DTT is essentially full, any more channels added to TVNZ's freeview service will degrade the quality of TVNZ's existing channels.  


Didn't think they gave a crap about the quality of their service on satellite to be honest. Would not put it beyond TVNZ to go and jam a few more in there untill all their channels are making C42 look like a DVD in comparison.




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  Reply # 338440 5-Jun-2010 07:45
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sbiddle: It's a TVNZ Pay TV channel - it's not a FTA channel. I don't see what the issue is really.


As New Zealand taxpayers, haven't we already paid for these shows via our NZ on Air taxes/charges?

If the money they make from this was going straight into upgrading their infrastructure so we can get AC3 surround sound etc, that'd be great!

It won't though.

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