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#77099 10-Feb-2011 22:50

Most the times, it is TVNZ mux that is the worst, but i am having bad stutter and breaking up, going to green screen in parts on some channels

I am using an E6300 Processor, windows 7 2GB Ram, HVR-2200 TV Tuner card PCI-e

ATI 4870 Video card

The signal strength and aerial is good, and it plays through Xbox media centre extender better but jerky, just not all pixelated, it is 90% good this way

But on PC it is very bad.

I have the latest ATI video card drivers, and a fresh install with no other codecs installed

Any ideas ? Anyone else had the problem,

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#438045 10-Feb-2011 22:54

Check the antenna, again. Corroded cables, bad adapters, trees, will cause that.

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#438048 10-Feb-2011 22:59

Hi,

I have done all that, its all new connections, a straight run from the antenna, no splitters or joiners,

and the Hauupagge signal meter is still showing what it always showed, at 27.5 in the green

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#438093 11-Feb-2011 06:13

If you watch a recording does it have the same problems in the same places as when watching the same TV live?

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#438111 11-Feb-2011 07:54

It has the same problems,

but not too sure if its the same places,

I will have to check, ill have a look tonight

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#438116 11-Feb-2011 08:07

I have the same issue. I also have the HVR-2200 card but with Intel i7 & 6gb Ram.

New antennae, New cables, New F connectors

I also have freeview built in to my sony TV via a splitter and this does not have the same issue. This makes me think it is the error handling abilities of the tuner card.

I find the worst program to be 'Home and Away' (Wife, NOT ME)

One day I might try a new card

I'm not a complete idiot, I still have some parts missing.

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#438120 11-Feb-2011 08:17

My HVR2200 went belly up after a couple of years. Same issues. I also noticed the issues the most around 5pm. It always used to mess up my Master Chef recording! I replaced it with 2 $10 ebay tuners, so far so good.

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#438127 11-Feb-2011 08:30

mcraenz: My HVR2200 went belly up after a couple of years. Same issues. I also noticed the issues the most around 5pm. It always used to mess up my Master Chef recording! I replaced it with 2 $10 ebay tuners, so far so good.

What brand/model did you end up getting?

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#438129 11-Feb-2011 08:35

I had the same issue with a Hauppauge Nova S and an HVR 3000 - slowly got more and more pixelated.
Swapped to a BG 3595 and been faultless since

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#438239 11-Feb-2011 11:55

Fingers crossed, I am using a HVR-2200 and it has been fine so far. Same for the HVR-3000's.

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#438319 11-Feb-2011 15:19

I too have problems with intermittent stutter and software freezeup. Located in Auckland.
Setup here is i5 2.8Ghz, 4gb RAM, HV2200, Win7 Pro, Hauppage Wintv7.
Particularly bad between 4pm - 6pm and Prime is worst for program freeze and crash. Using Windows Media Centre seems to be OK most of the time (at least it doesnt seem to crash) but I don't like it. I think its just a problem with Hauppage hardware and software maybe not liking our NZ Freeview codecs. Signal strength is always 100% but the 2200 doesn't seem anywhere near as sensitive as other tuners. Doesn't seem to be any problem with timer recorded programs though. They are mostly stutter and pixellation free and no freeze ups.
No problems with 2 set top boxes I have although my old DSE one was bad 4pm - 6pm (unusable at times) and eventually failed completely.
If I was to get another tuner card it will NOT be Hauppage.
My other gripe with the 2200 is the EPG doesn't work except for very occasionally providing a couple of hours of info on only some channels. Even after a clean install or update only a few hours of EPG will show up.

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#438420 11-Feb-2011 19:18

stevehall: It has the same problems,

but not too sure if its the same places,

I will have to check, ill have a look tonight

Just checked, yes it is in the same place

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#438783 13-Feb-2011 09:58

OK so that points to it being the feed rather then any issues with your HTPC performance. I have found that it seems that PC tuner cards seem to require a better quality signal then your average STB or TV. Maybe worth checking your aerial and cabling.

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#438993 13-Feb-2011 21:24

Nety: OK so that points to it being the feed rather then any issues with your HTPC performance. I have found that it seems that PC tuner cards seem to require a better quality signal then your average STB or TV. Maybe worth checking your aerial and cabling.

thats what it would seem to be, but im in a good area, cabling has been re done on aerial

and it plays fine on tv, (well about 95%) fine without stuttering through my xbox as a media centre extender

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#439059 14-Feb-2011 00:45

As I understand it, the HVR2200 is a dual tuner. It is not really fair to compare signal strength/quality percentages from one device to another, but it is even less fair to compare a dual tuner to the single tuner in your TV...

If all your cabling and connectors are new and good quality (dual/quad shielded RG6 cable, crimped connectors) then try checking the "focus" of your antenna. I have:

[something like a] gizmo antenna --> 5-10m RG6 cable -> amplified with a 15-20dB Kingray 2 way splitter/amplifier --> split/combined 8 ways with satellite signals from Optus D1 and D2 by an EMP Centauri multiswitch

After that, one multiswitch feed does:

5-10m under the house -> 4 way splitter -> 2 feeds into 2 dual hybrid tuners, 1 into a satellite tuner

The hybrid tuners are TDA10046A + TDA8275 chips, almost the same as the HVR2200. The PCIe bridge chipset is in the same family too - an NXP/Philips SAA7162 4 simultaneous stream chipset, compared with the HVR2200s SAA7164 2 stream chipset. No problems whatsoever! :)

[Edit: it could even be that your signal is too strong for the HVR2200]

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#439077 14-Feb-2011 08:09

mm1352000: As I understand it, the HVR2200 is a dual tuner. It is not really fair to compare signal strength/quality percentages from one device to another, but it is even less fair to compare a dual tuner to the single tuner in your TV...

If all your cabling and connectors are new and good quality (dual/quad shielded RG6 cable, crimped connectors) then try checking the "focus" of your antenna. I have:

[something like a] gizmo antenna --> 5-10m RG6 cable -> amplified with a 15-20dB Kingray 2 way splitter/amplifier --> split/combined 8 ways with satellite signals from Optus D1 and D2 by an EMP Centauri multiswitch

After that, one multiswitch feed does:

5-10m under the house -> 4 way splitter -> 2 feeds into 2 dual hybrid tuners, 1 into a satellite tuner

The hybrid tuners are TDA10046A + TDA8275 chips, almost the same as the HVR2200. The PCIe bridge chipset is in the same family too - an NXP/Philips SAA7162 4 simultaneous stream chipset, compared with the HVR2200s SAA7164 2 stream chipset. No problems whatsoever! :)

[Edit: it could even be that your signal is too strong for the HVR2200]

hi

the thing is , im not even using the tuner in the tv, im using the hvr-2200 and playing it via my xbox media centre extender to the tv via my network cable,

and it works 95% good there, none of the green screen and breaking just a little skip every now and then