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Topic # 128811 24-Aug-2013 01:36
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Stock Surges. Apparently everyone except MS knew he was taking the company down a bad path!


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  Reply # 884028 24-Aug-2013 21:31
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He tripled revenues, doubled profits and added many more billion dollar a year products. Hardly what I would call going down a bad path.




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  Reply # 884052 24-Aug-2013 22:19
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billgates: He tripled revenues, doubled profits and added many more billion dollar a year products. Hardly what I would call going down a bad path.


And the cherry on the top was Windows 8 :-)

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  Reply # 884055 24-Aug-2013 22:32
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They need some new blood at the top. He is not exactly a Steve Jobs, who was a major part of apples products, and a perfectionist.

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  Reply # 884076 25-Aug-2013 00:08
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Lol I read this as Steve Biddle and was sad :(





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  Reply # 884098 25-Aug-2013 07:07
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Mr Ballmer will be a hard act to follow, he has done an excellent job in his time at Microsoft. Of his critics 95% of them have no idea what it is like to head a corporation the size of MSFT and they could not run a corner Dairy. As for the share market investors, they are a bunch of demented reef fish the go into uncontrollable panic attacks at slightest rumour, even the rumours they start themselves.

Who could replace him? I would like to see MSFT acquire Nokia and have Mr Stephen Elop assume the CEO role.




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  Reply # 884120 25-Aug-2013 09:21
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Shareholders crying tears of joy

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KiwiNZ: Mr Ballmer will be a hard act to follow, he has done an excellent job in his time at Microsoft. Of his critics 95% of them have no idea what it is like to head a corporation the size of MSFT and they could not run a corner Dairy. As for the share market investors, they are a bunch of demented reef fish the go into uncontrollable panic attacks at slightest rumour, even the rumours they start themselves.

Who could replace him? I would like to see MSFT acquire Nokia and have Mr Stephen Elop assume the CEO role.


I do not have an opinion on Steve Ballmer, but to state that 95% of his critics are basically inept and could not manage a dairy, and that all of the Microsoft sharemarket investors are demented reef fish is a bit over the top. I'd prefer some facts and debate so I can form my opinion based upon real statements.

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  Reply # 884146 25-Aug-2013 10:41
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Klipspringer: Shareholders crying tears of joy


read that with his retirement ,Microsoft shares rose 7-8 % which means his share worth rose nearly NZ $ billion , not bad retirement present.




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  Reply # 884147 25-Aug-2013 10:44
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Its paper money, Only worth that when you sell them. And if anyone with that massive a holding sold at once the price would not stay that high

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  Reply # 884148 25-Aug-2013 10:49
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I've never owned a smartphone and I never will, but it seems to me that MS missed the major shift from desktop computers (where they reigned supreme) to mobile computers. They're being trying to catchup for a long time.




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  Reply # 884207 25-Aug-2013 13:56
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Who could replace him? I would like to see MSFT acquire Nokia and have Mr Stephen Elop assume the CEO role.


Well Mr Elop hasn't done wonderful things at Nokia, in fact I'd go as far to say he has nearly wrecked Nokia. If he went back to Microsoft I 'd say it might do wonders for Nokia.




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  Reply # 884227 25-Aug-2013 15:48
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Who could replace him? I would like to see MSFT acquire Nokia and have Mr Stephen Elop assume the CEO role.


Well Mr Elop hasn't done wonderful things at Nokia, in fact I'd go as far to say he has nearly wrecked Nokia. If he went back to Microsoft I 'd say it might do wonders for Nokia.


when elop came on board, Nokias market share was dropping and their share price had already halved.  from what I can see both are now back on the rise.  the company may well have gone bust by now if t had carried on in the same direction - they really needed to switch to windows or android to stay alive, in my opinion.

Someone else at the helm may well have done better, but I don't think he wrecked the company.




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  Reply # 884241 25-Aug-2013 16:38
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No doubt about it Nokia had some poor management before Stephen Elop came along.  Nokia's real problem was in the dysfunctional way the company was being run and the lack of direction in some areas.  They had the ingredients (innovation and software wise) to be very successful.

His infamous burning platforms memo/speech didn't really reflect the true state of Nokia's Symbian much less Meego platforms.  The very last iterations of Symbian were pretty darn good for an old OS which was mainly hampered by hardware/processor limitations. Symbian was/is way more feature rich than most more modern OS's.   

Nokia also had a vastly superior platform to WP in Meego. Elop killed Meego off in favour of WP. Meego was not officially released in any major market where WP was to be released so there was never a real head to head comparison.  One which would have shown how far behind Meego WP really was and in some ways still is.

they really needed to switch to windows or android to stay alive, in my opinion.


I've used Android, WP8 and Meego, I always come back to Meego as a better OS. Remember too that Meego has only had one update since it's release nearly 2 years ago and it still measures up very well.




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  Reply # 884272 25-Aug-2013 18:37
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Technofreak: 

they really needed to switch to windows or android to stay alive, in my opinion.


I've used Android, WP8 and Meego, I always come back to Meego as a better OS. Remember too that Meego has only had one update since it's release nearly 2 years ago and it still measures up very well.


one would argue that the blackberry os's are better in many ways.... but will they succeed? probably not.  Its not necessarily about the better product....




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  Reply # 884285 25-Aug-2013 19:26
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one would argue that the blackberry os's are better in many ways.... but will they succeed? probably not. Its not necessarily about the better product...


Very true, there many a good products or ideas that's came second, the VHS/Beta result is good evidence of that.  However that doesn't change what I wrote re Stephen Elop's results at Nokia. He hasn't been a success in my eyes.

Previously you wrote

when elop came on board, Nokias market share was dropping and their share price had already halved. from what I can see both are now back on the rise


This is only one article but it doesn't put a good light on his results, in the US at least.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/terokuittinen/2013/07/19/new-evidence-about-why-windows-phone-is-doomed-in-america/








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