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#143937 2-May-2014 11:31
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Who registered one since they went live yesterday?

Apparently they'll need 50,000 registrations to break even on teh investment to set up the TLD.

Will the domain take off I wonder, or are people banking on being able to use simply .nz later this year as their preferred suffix?

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  #1035352 2-May-2014 11:43
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Wow if that figure is accurate, it doesn't sound like that great a gamble to me.  I can't imagine businesses taking up a .kiwi address (too informal for my liking) and they aren't that many households lining up to buy their own domain names.

More than happy to be proved wrong.

Where did you get that figure from?




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  #1035358 2-May-2014 11:47
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I heard this a while ago, but you can calculate it easily by diving the upfront registration fees by the wholesale cost. I think it was like $180k - $200k or something like that to become a registrar for a new TLD. Possibly more.

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  #1035367 2-May-2014 11:56
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i rather go with .nz, went to register a couple of .kiwi but meh, as said too informal.  



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  #1035424 2-May-2014 13:28
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I suspect their premium domains will contribute to offset some of the initial outlay.  https://hello.kiwi/premiumnames?clearSearch

Time will tell though.  The gTLD market is being thrown on it's head, so it will be interesting to see how new extensions are marketed.  Once people get out of a .com mindset (or .nz), then .kiwi may have a place in the new landscape.  



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  #1035427 2-May-2014 13:32
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onebytemike: I suspect their premium domains will contribute to offset some of the initial outlay.  https://hello.kiwi/premiumnames?clearSearch

Time will tell though.  The gTLD market is being thrown on it's head, so it will be interesting to see how new extensions are marketed.  Once people get out of a .com mindset (or .nz), then .kiwi may have a place in the new landscape.  




Although who is going to pay those premium prices for those domains. I don't really see it as an extension businesses would 'need' to have, and they would likely stick to a.co.nz or .nz. . I haven't seen any demand for the kiwi extension from people I have spoken to . I see it more of a domain that someone may want for personal use. It is possibly a domain that can be bundled with a personal online service with email.

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  #1035434 2-May-2014 13:48
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mattwnz: 

Although who is going to pay those premium prices for those domains. I don't really see it as an extension businesses would 'need' to have, and they would likely stick to a.co.nz or .nz. . I haven't seen any demand for the kiwi extension from people I have spoken to . I see it more of a domain that someone may want for personal use. It is possibly a domain that can be bundled with a personal online service with email.



If you believe the site, there seem to be quite a few sold already.  A simple whois should reveal the owner.

 
 
 
 

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  #1035437 2-May-2014 13:50
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No luck googling for this....  has there been any indication that we are going to be able to register mycomanyname.nz any time soon?




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  #1035439 2-May-2014 13:52
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Dynamic: No luck googling for this....  has there been any indication that we are going to be able to register mycomanyname.nz any time soon?


It's going to be later this year. Seems to be a few delays as they organise policy etc.

http://dnc.org.nz/latest-news

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  #1035440 2-May-2014 13:54
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Dynamic: No luck googling for this....  has there been any indication that we are going to be able to register mycomanyname.nz any time soon?

The policy document is still under consideration.  Suspect it'll be around July/August when the DNC start the ball rolling.   http://dnc.org.nz/second_level_proposal_c3 for those interested in the changes and how eligibility works.

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  #1035442 2-May-2014 13:56
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onebytemike: I suspect their premium domains will contribute to offset some of the initial outlay.  https://hello.kiwi/premiumnames?clearSearch

Time will tell though.  The gTLD market is being thrown on it's head, so it will be interesting to see how new extensions are marketed.  Once people get out of a .com mindset (or .nz), then .kiwi may have a place in the new landscape.  




I tried testing one which the website says is sold, and this is the result I got.

Domain ID:
Domain Name: fishing.kiwi
WHOIS Server: whois-cl01.mm-registry.com
Status: Not Registered

>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-05-02T01:49:05Z <<<



The domains maybe getting offered for that price but I presume the price is negotiable, as they have an option to 'submit proposal', whatever that means.


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  #1035468 2-May-2014 14:15
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mattwnz:
onebytemike: I suspect their premium domains will contribute to offset some of the initial outlay.  https://hello.kiwi/premiumnames?clearSearch

Time will tell though.  The gTLD market is being thrown on it's head, so it will be interesting to see how new extensions are marketed.  Once people get out of a .com mindset (or .nz), then .kiwi may have a place in the new landscape.  




I tried testing one which the website says is sold, and this is the result I got.

Domain ID:
Domain Name: fishing.kiwi
WHOIS Server: whois-cl01.mm-registry.com
Status: Not Registered

>>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-05-02T01:49:05Z <<<



The domains maybe getting offered for that price but I presume the price is negotiable, as they have an option to 'submit proposal', whatever that means.


You may want to wait a day or two.  Sunrise and landrush applications are still being processed, I believe.  Wouldn't be surprised if that includes the presales of premium domains also.

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  #1035469 2-May-2014 14:15
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Which WHOIS did you use? I wanted to see if Lotto had bought instant.kiwi (it is unavailable).
can get eatsrootsshootsandleaves.kiwi :)

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  #1035482 2-May-2014 14:27
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trig42: Which WHOIS did you use? I wanted to see if Lotto had bought instant.kiwi (it is unavailable).
can get eatsrootsshootsandleaves.kiwi :)


There is a whois link at the bottom of their website page

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  #1035488 2-May-2014 14:46
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I tried first thing to get kiwi.kiwi just for the novelty but some other smart person bet me to it.


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  #1035493 2-May-2014 14:50
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sbiddle: I tried first thing to get kiwi.kiwi just for the novelty but some other smart person bet me to it.


Well if you feel like an investment you can get aussie.kiwi or dumb.kiwi for prices that are only slightly absurd (IMHO).




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