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Topic # 153544 30-Sep-2014 14:36
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Registered a .nz domain with Metaname... First time experience, not very happy.

Also, do they take some time to update DNS? The domain shows as registered but nslookup directly to their NS shows nothing...






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  Reply # 1144294 30-Sep-2014 15:10
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I would recommend a whois lookup as that'll tell you if the domain is actually registered.

If it is registered then I would think there's something dodgy since their name servers should have updated within minutes of the registration taking place.




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  Reply # 1144296 30-Sep-2014 15:15
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Ok, .nz seems to have pushed a zone update on the hour. Changed NS and metaname pushes this five minutes after the hour. Things are progressing then.

The bad experience is the whole "prepaid" experience. They give you a price excl GST, and excl. PayPal fees. So I put in some money there, but only enough for 11 months renewal, which left some money left in the account. Yes, could have paid via bank, but didn't think the whole thing is like that.

Will keep this domain there until the end of the term and then see where to go - Orcon still working on support for .nz it seems.





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  Reply # 1144299 30-Sep-2014 15:18
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1stdomains seem to have support for .nz ready to go. You could take a look at them depending on your requirements.




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  Reply # 1144313 30-Sep-2014 15:19
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Only needed to register one domain and my default registrar (Orcon) is not ready. But thanks for the suggestion.





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  Reply # 1144314 30-Sep-2014 15:21
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freitasm: 
Will keep this domain there until the end of the term and then see where to go - Orcon still working on support for .nz it seems.



I would have thought all registrars are up on .nz domains. Although I have heard of some people who have .co.nz domains who didn't know anything about .nz domains and haven't been contacted by their domain provider. I would have thought it was a requirement for registrars to inform clients about it, as it is a pretty big thing.



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  Reply # 1144316 30-Sep-2014 15:23
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It is not a requirement because it's not a mandatory change. But i you want to secure the name, then you have to get it or resolve conflicts pretty soon (well, at least March 2015).





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  Reply # 1144332 30-Sep-2014 15:48
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freitasm: It is not a requirement because it's not a mandatory change. But i you want to secure the name, then you have to get it or resolve conflicts pretty soon (well, at least March 2015).



You can also reserve to free for 2 years on the anyname.nz website, which extends the 6 months out by another 18 months. This is something that I wasn't told about when I was emailed by our domain provider. But I have done this for my domains while I think about it. It is a good option for many as it gives you 2 years to think about it, or to cross over to the new one when the .co.nz on is due to expire.
 I think they really should have done it like they did in the UK, where .co.uk owners were given the .uk version automatically. Especially as the vast majority of existing nz domains were .co.nz ones (I believe it is over 85%). Many people who registered alternatives, such a .net.nz, did so because the .co.nz version had already been taken.



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  Reply # 1144366 30-Sep-2014 16:20
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mattwnz:
freitasm: It is not a requirement because it's not a mandatory change. But i you want to secure the name, then you have to get it or resolve conflicts pretty soon (well, at least March 2015).



I think they really should have done it like they did in the UK, where .co.uk owners were given the .uk version automatically. Especially as the vast majority of existing nz domains were .co.nz ones (I believe it is over 85%). Many people who registered alternatives, such a .net.nz, did so because the .co.nz version had already been taken.


This is better discussed here: http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=86&topicid=150393






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  Reply # 1144420 30-Sep-2014 17:35
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freitasm: It is not a requirement because it's not a mandatory change. But i you want to secure the name, then you have to get it or resolve conflicts pretty soon (well, at least March 2015).



In a way it is essential information though, because it potentially could effect someone else getting the .nz version of their domain, if it is conflicted. I resell domains to clients and we were told by our registrar that we must contact clients about it so they were informed. Potentially you could get someone who registed geekzone.gen.nz a few years ago, who knows nothing about the change, and they end up blocking you from getting the shorter .nz version. But if they knew about it, they could use anyname.nz and tell the system they don't want the shorter nz domain, which then removes the conflict.

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  Reply # 1144431 30-Sep-2014 17:59
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I went to use Metaname today after a few people recommended it but their site seemed bad and didn't want to even show the availability of .nz names. I know the DNC was under load, but iwantmyname worked fine so I just popped over there and registered it.





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  Reply # 1144434 30-Sep-2014 18:08
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I think Metaname should just put the total and absorb the PayPal costs. Even doing this would still be cheaper than other registrars, and would give the customer the knowledge of exactly how much to topup. As it is I put a bit more but wasn't enough to cover the fee, so I only renewed for 11 months which means I have a small balance (less than a dollar) that won't be used. 

Not much but it shows to me it's only worth for companies doing lots of registrations. Metaname comes down to $25 + GST + Paypal, while Orcon is $36.80 incl GST. Metaname is still cheaper but I have no idea of exactly how much I have to pay if I want to use credit card.

At the end of the term I will just transfer to the same registrar (once Orcon put their thoughts together and add support to .nz) to make it simple to manage all in one place.





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  Reply # 1144437 30-Sep-2014 18:15
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freitasm: I think Metaname should just put the total and absorb the PayPal costs. 


Domain names are very low margin services in many cases. I don't know how many actually make any money after staffing and support, and infrastructure costs. Many would rely on high volumes, but I suspect many of hte smaller ones don''t make much at all and reply on selling add on services. But it shouldn' t be too hard to have a pricing page showing different costs if paying by credit card, vs not paying by credit card.



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  Reply # 1144440 30-Sep-2014 18:16
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mattwnz:
freitasm: I think Metaname should just put the total and absorb the PayPal costs. 


Domain names are very low margin services in many cases. I don't know how many actually make any money after staffing and support, and infrastructure costs. Many would rely on high volumes, but I suspect many of hte smaller ones don''t make much at all and reply on selling add on services.


Notice I said put the total cost INCLUDING the PayPal cost. "Absorbing" here means they put the cost in the price so the customer doesn't have to go around calculating it.





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