Crashplan exiting consumer market - the hunt for a new provider.

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#222666 23-Aug-2017 06:43

Gutted actually.

I've asked if the peer to peer functionality will remain, as that's a big part of it.

But anyway, thoughts on new providers? 've got about 1.5tb backed up. I know that carbonate used to throttle you if you were over a threshold (1tb I thought). Mozy have exited, who else is there?

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#1850814 23-Aug-2017 06:54

Thanks for raising that here: I would have probably missed their email!

Well I am gutted... I have about 2TB of data up in their cloud (and no access to Fibre) so moving ain't gonna be easy :-(

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#1850815 23-Aug-2017 06:54

Bugger. Have been giving some thought to rolling my own solution. Have ordered one of the new Odroid HC1's so might put that at a friends place for offsite backups.

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#1850816 23-Aug-2017 06:57

I have actually only been backing up one computer so unless I am missing something, I could just migrate to Chrashplan for Business and pay $10 per month and even keep all my backed up stuff. (I think)

Sounds the easiest for me at this stage

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#1850818 23-Aug-2017 07:00

Annoying. I've used them for a few years, I have family on them.

I did a review of Crashplan, Mozy, and Backblaze a couple of months ago. I decided BackBlaze was probably the best provider for me, and for most people. The only downside compared with CrashPlan is file versions are only kept for around 30 days, from memory.

My father in law uses Norton Online Backup. I don't know much about it, but it's a huge company, they keep versions of files, it's block based, and supports PC and Mac.

I moved to use CrashPlan Backup with storage in both Amazon S3 and BackBlaze B2 for my online backups - B2 is cheaper and much easier to use. I also put older data into Amazon Glacier. The main problem is a soft 1TB storage limit imposed by CloudBerry, which can be raised. It's only for technical people.

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#1850820 23-Aug-2017 07:06

davidcole: ... I've asked if the peer to peer functionality will remain, as that's a big part of it.

... 've got about 1.5tb backed up. ...

You beat me to the punch for posting this story. :-)

Backup for small business will take away the P2P functionality as per their home page for the conversion:

Continue your backups without starting over. You can migrate your cloud backups (5 TB or smaller) and all local backups.
CrashPlan for Small Business does not support computer-to-computer backups. Click here for more information.

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#1850821 23-Aug-2017 07:07

Carbonite also doesn't support a server os for their home software. Like acronis.

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#1850824 23-Aug-2017 07:13

timmmay:

Annoying. I've used them for a few years, I have family on them.

I did a review of Crashplan, Mozy, and Backblaze a couple of months ago. I decided BackBlaze was probably the best provider for me, and for most people. The only downside compared with CrashPlan is file versions are only kept for around 30 days, from memory.

My father in law uses Norton Online Backup. I don't know much about it, but it's a huge company, they keep versions of files, it's block based, and supports PC and Mac.

I moved to use CrashPlan Backup with storage in both Amazon S3 and BackBlaze B2 for my online backups - B2 is cheaper and much easier to use. I also put older data into Amazon Glacier. The main problem is a soft 1TB storage limit imposed by CloudBerry, which can be raised. It's only for technical people.

Interested to hear about your experience with Glacier. I had been thinking about this to store older data that I don't need/use as much but was curious as to how you even get it up there. Are there tools you can use to manage the uploading process?

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#1850825 23-Aug-2017 07:15

timmmay:

Annoying. I've used them for a few years, I have family on them.

I did a review of Crashplan, Mozy, and Backblaze a couple of months ago. I decided BackBlaze was probably the best provider for me, and for most people. The only downside compared with CrashPlan is file versions are only kept for around 30 days, from memory.

My father in law uses Norton Online Backup. I don't know much about it, but it's a huge company, they keep versions of files, it's block based, and supports PC and Mac.

I moved to use CrashPlan Backup with storage in both Amazon S3 and BackBlaze B2 for my online backups - B2 is cheaper and much easier to use. I also put older data into Amazon Glacier. The main problem is a soft 1TB storage limit imposed by CloudBerry, which can be raised. It's only for technical people.

Backblaze is 1/3 the cost of Storj which is a new blockchain based cloud storage. Wonder how backblaze keep it so cheap?

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#1850837 23-Aug-2017 07:23

Another one is iDrive....but currently for a single machine backup (which is mostly what I have...even though I do actually backup up multiple machines to a central server with crashplan) backblaze does seem to be the best.. Or i switch to crashplan business.

I don't think carbonite will work for me as I have a server os.

To get around the client backups, there are apps like urbackup or veem...but I'll probably switch those to copy to a central server location. It was handy to have this in crashplan in individual clients for accidental screwup restores.

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#1850839 23-Aug-2017 07:26

Also came here after reading that email this morming.. Bastards.. Anyone know if BackBlaze has AU storage, or is still US only?

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#1850841 23-Aug-2017 07:28

PANiCnz: Bugger. Have been giving some thought to rolling my own solution. Have ordered one of the new Odroid HC1's so might put that at a friends place for offsite backups.

Very interested in this myself. Wonder if one of these would be suitable to configure in a home network and stream video/music from them to the TV's and upload to them from a remote location? AKA i live in Auckland father lives up north and i want to drop media into his box so he just has to look for it on the TV.

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#1850862 23-Aug-2017 07:33

gcorgnet:

Interested to hear about your experience with Glacier. I had been thinking about this to store older data that I don't need/use as much but was curious as to how you even get it up there. Are there tools you can use to manage the uploading process?

I use Cloudberry Explorer Pro - I got it free as they give licenses to anyone with AWS Professional qualifications. There's also fast glacier, but I like CB better.

The thing about Glacier is it's archiving, not a file system. Basically you zip up your data into a number of larger files, upload them, and your software maintains a list of what each folder has. If you need Glacier to tell you, your software requests an inventory, which takes 24 hours. If you want to restore it takes 3-5 hours unless you pay extra, and the user interface is nothing like consumer backup.

You need an AWS account, and you should set up IAM (user management) with suitable user and policy. For example you should create a user that has enough access to upload files, but not enough to delete files, because if your access key leaks you don't want your stuff deleted or downloaded. IAM gives you very fine grained control but it's not trivial to use - you write policies in json or yaml. I could probably write a tutorial, but it'd take some time - someone's probably already written one.

Lias:

Also came here after reading that email this morming.. Bastards.. Anyone know if BackBlaze has AU storage, or is still US only?

BB only have one data center AFAIK. That gives you less redundancy of your data, with all copies in the same facility.

The good thing about AWS S3 and Glacier is the data is stored in three separate data centers.

Coil:

Backblaze is 1/3 the cost of Storj which is a new blockchain based cloud storage. Wonder how backblaze keep it so cheap?

Suspect it's because they use consumer drives, self built pods, and keep costs down. It's still exceptionally cheap though and it wouldn't surprise me if prices rise at some point.

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#1850865 23-Aug-2017 07:35

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/crashplan-alternative-backup-solution/

They've jumped on the fact that with CP closing, it's worth putting out a special "we're better than carbonite post"

And bugger, BB is another one that doesn't allow you to use a server os.

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#1850866 23-Aug-2017 07:37

Yep, came here to say this. BackBlaze may be the option because there's nothing that can take away the bad taste of using Carbonite before and finding out they didn't exactly backup everything...

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#1850872 23-Aug-2017 07:42

freitasm:

Yep, came here to say this. BackBlaze may be the option because there's nothing that can take away the bad taste of using Carbonite before and finding out they didn't exactly backup everything...

Yeah I remember you had to create all these empty files with certain extentions and explicity say back up files like this...eg .mp4.

I've asked backblaze about a server os, even though I only want one machine backed up, seems to be similar pricing as home - eg $50/yr/computer.

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