Register Australian Domain Name Without ABN

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#243563 18-Dec-2018 14:40

The subject says it all really! I have a NZ-based business client that wants an Australian domain name. However, they don't have an ABN number, which is required to register them. Years ago, I found a service that registered on behalf but I can't find it now. Does anyone have any advice or can point me in the right direction?

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#2147176 18-Dec-2018 15:09

Get the client to get an ABN. Don't rely on a 3rd party to handle it, could end up in all sorts of strife if things turned nasty between the client and the ABN supplier.

Do it right, do it once.

Its the same with a domain name, make sure its the owners name on all the records, not the web designer etc.

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#2147183 18-Dec-2018 15:13

Get the client to get an ABN. Don't rely on a 3rd party to handle it, could end up in all sorts of strife if things turned nasty between the client and the ABN supplier.

I agree but are they able to get an ABN without actually having an Australian-registered business entity?

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#2147186 18-Dec-2018 15:16

I believe when you register an Australian trade mark, an ABN number is also generated. This can be an easier way to get one.

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#2147192 18-Dec-2018 15:32

I think it is really good they have this requirement.

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#2147230 18-Dec-2018 16:59

mattwnz:

I think it is really good they have this requirement.

It does not solve squatting issues and makes it a PITA for personal use domains.

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#2147252 18-Dec-2018 18:04

Yes you do need a presence in AU - the way I did it for a client years ago, was ask if they had a company representative or family member in AU who could sign up as a company and obtain the ABN - worked fine for them :)

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#2147361 18-Dec-2018 20:38

loceff13: ... It does not solve squatting issues and makes it a PITA for personal use domains.

The OP has a business case and for personal use, Australia does offer .id.au

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#2147362 18-Dec-2018 20:39

I registered an ABN for my company under "Other Incorporated Entity" to get an Australian bank account to receive payments

Being a NZ registered company made it super straightforward, but it was 2014 so may have changed since then? It was mostly about providing the NZ company registration details. Took very little effort.

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#2148243 20-Dec-2018 10:26

danielfaulknor:

Being a NZ registered company made it super straightforward, but it was 2014 so may have changed since then? It was mostly about providing the NZ company registration details. Took very little effort.

If that was the case in 2014 then in theory it should be even easier now. I'm pretty sure the current Government signed an agreement with the Australian Government a couple of months ago to make doing business on either side of the Tasman even easier. That agreement may not have kicked in yet.

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#2148247 20-Dec-2018 10:32

Found it. It was about electronic invoicing leveraging both ABN and NZBNs. Maybe this might indirectly ease the path to acquiring an ABN?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/small-business/107919914/electronic-invoicing-expected-to-save-nz-and-australia-30b-over-10-years