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#259894 29-Oct-2019 10:00

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/28/selfservice_power_platform_why_microsoft_is_bypassing_office_365_admins/

TL;DR, Microsoft have decided that end users should be able to buy whatever addon Power platform software they want for 365 without their IT departments permission or ability to block it.

The uservote requesting the ability to block this feature has hit over 3k votes in less than a week, currently putting it as the 6th most requested feature for Office 365 Admin... Considering that all the other requests with more votes are several years old you'd like to think they will get the message.

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#2345712 29-Oct-2019 10:23

Looks like US only at this stage: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/commerce/subscriptions/self-service-purchase-faq

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#2345721 29-Oct-2019 10:33

engedib:

Looks like US only at this stage: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/commerce/subscriptions/self-service-purchase-faq

Assuming the backlash doesn't torpedo it I'm assuming we will see it rolled out wider, hence better to scream loudly about it now and kill it before it happens :-)

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#2345741 29-Oct-2019 11:12

I'm not currently seeing this as a big deal.

- Only specific limited apps can be purchased (though this might be the thin end of the wedge)

- Data is kept within the existing 365 landscape with its associated security policies

- Buyers are not going to use their personal credit card

- Buyers using their company credit card have to justify the expense to their manager.

Shadow IT has always been a thing that IT Departments have had to 'manage', and they should be the first to acknowledge that sometimes they are slow-moving (for policy or budget or time reasons). I expect some great things have come out of Shadow IT that get rolled out companywide 'once the IT guys get on board'

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#2345752 29-Oct-2019 11:39

Seems like for those companies who have an issue with it a simple company policy not allowing it will solve it. Its not exfiling data or bypassing security, Helps companies who trust their users improve.

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#2345821 29-Oct-2019 13:50

Comment from one of the team member "So the drug dealer is going to bypass the local distributor and go directly to the drug addict."

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#2345843 29-Oct-2019 14:36

I once sent this quote to a co-worker regarding end users being able to create their own Office 365 Groups:

“It’s easier to spin up something in the cloud, get things done for your team, than trying to deal with IT and often not getting what we want. By providing Groups to your organization, you’re providing choice to your teams, projects and business units. Let them create a “Group” and, within it, use whatever technology best fits their needs.”

He sent back the following reply:

“It’s easier to set up a vigilante group on the streets, get things done for your community, than trying to deal with the police and often not getting what we want. By providing weapons to your neighbourhood, you’re providing choice to your family, friends and neighbours. Let them create a “militia” and, with it, dispense whatever justice best fits their needs.”

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#2345950 29-Oct-2019 17:48

That's amusing, but we are talking about productivity and not law and order.

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#2345961 29-Oct-2019 18:33

Dynamic:

That's amusing, but we are talking about productivity and not law and order.

Maybe not order, but we are kinda talking about law here for a lot of people:

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2005/0040/latest/DLM345529.html

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#2345973 29-Oct-2019 19:11

A well setup o365 system will alert to license changes/new products etc etc and again it's simple for Corporate to make using this feature misconduct/serious misconduct if data retention laws apply to you.

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#2346275 30-Oct-2019 12:38

Response from Microsoft https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/28/selfservice_power_platform_why_microsoft_is_bypassing_office_365_admins/

Feedback request to block this service has 5000+ votes till now https://office365.uservoice.com/forums/273493-office-365-admin/suggestions/38878723-ability-to-block-self-service-purchase-capabilitie

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#2346312 30-Oct-2019 14:07

gbwelly:

Dynamic:

That's amusing, but we are talking about productivity and not law and order.

Maybe not order, but we are kinda talking about law here for a lot of people:

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2005/0040/latest/DLM345529.html

If the organisation is already using 365 services, wouldn't that question have been answered already?

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#2346335 30-Oct-2019 15:00

Dynamic:

If the organisation is already using 365 services, wouldn't that question have been answered already?

What Office 365 services are we talking about here? There isn't just one big button that says 'Comply with the Public Records Act' that you can press.

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#2346357 30-Oct-2019 15:34

gbwelly:

Dynamic:

If the organisation is already using 365 services, wouldn't that question have been answered already?

What Office 365 services are we talking about here? There isn't just one big button that says 'Comply with the Public Records Act' that you can press.

Very true, but use of any of the major 365 services to store email or files or other data means that the data will not be stored in NZ, and this will be a step that the IT Dept must already have undertaken before the 'user self service' option to add Power BI, PowerApps, and Flow could possibly be done. On the face of it, I don't see this adding any significant business risk.

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#2346420 30-Oct-2019 19:33

I have to agree with Dynamic here. There is nothing to see here, so let's move along. Nothing has really changed, and I would argue this change is for the better.

Business units have always been able to go and add these services if required or wanted. They typically set up their own tenants to do it. If single sign-on is not required there is no need to require their IT department involvement in these tenants.

The good news, now that can do it in your existing tenant! where you now have control over the use of the data where its located and how it's shared. It's their credit card so it goes to their cost centre.

Don't sweat it, prepare your tenant for it, embrace the new things you will learn in the journey.

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#2346468 30-Oct-2019 21:44

Can see both sides to this. However if users are finding solutions to their own problems then it just shows that there are unmet needs that IT are not catering for.

IT should be an enabler for the business, not some gatekeeping hurdle that everyone else needs to fight against to progress the businesses objectives.

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