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#269701 3-Apr-2020 09:42

Hi.
Im after some suggestions for cloud backup options, aprox 400Gb data : mostly docs so should compress , not a full sever image .

Im considering OneNet's service , because its local & I can talk to a NZ support tech if needed
Any other good options to consider.

I cant pre-seed (?) because of the lockdown, so I'll need to do an initial 400gb backup , but they have a fast Fibre connection , upload speed approx 500Mbs

It may be just for a month or so, but if the price isnt too bad they may decide to just keep using it .
They are worried about no one being able to change backup drive (Win Server)
Thanks

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#2453551 3-Apr-2020 09:46

Backblaze B2?

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#2453552 3-Apr-2020 09:48

MSP Backup (formerly CloudBerry Backup) storing the data in AWS S3, BackBlaze B2, etc. Software costs US$120, B2 costs US$4 per month, S3 infrequent access class costs US$8 per month but is enterprise grade storage across three data centres whereas B2 is not quite as distributed.

Or something simple like BackBlaze backup for about US$7 per month? Not sure if it works for servers.

I prefer the free / open source Restic backup, but it's command line and does de-duplication rather than compression. Works great. No formal support, just community.

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#2453575 3-Apr-2020 10:07

+1 for Restic + B2

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#2453582 3-Apr-2020 10:14

I have a 2Tb lifetime subscription to pCloud. Have been using it for few years and it hasnt let me down yet

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#2453585 3-Apr-2020 10:17

Why not a full server image? What if the server turns up its toes mid next week?

I can supply a commercial solution with local storage for rapid recovery, full image based or Docs only. PM me if interested.

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#2453589 3-Apr-2020 10:19

Use the geekzone link for backblaze: https://gkz1.co/2g3Zfru

I and my company use them for about ~3tb of backup - docs, images and source code (as well as github and other tools).

Recommended.

Depending on your upload speed, we uploaded our first 300gb in about 2 - 3 days if I recall correctly.

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#2453601 3-Apr-2020 10:39

Do you want something you can automate with some flexibility or just a tool to get the job done?

I'm using both Google GSuite and OneDrive for offsite backups, scripted using rclone. As rclone runs pretty much everywhere, I can backup directly from my desktop or NAS.

IIRC, GSuite is $US12 per month with promotions available (includes 1TB of storage), and my OneDrive stroage is bundled with Office 365 and paid for by a family member, so I don't have an exact cost for that. Very little compared to most online backup services however.

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#2453637 3-Apr-2020 11:44

I'm still on crashplan. Set and forget mostly. Costs about $16AUD a month now though....

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#2453719 3-Apr-2020 12:49

I use Azure Backup these days - just throwing it out there as a potential research option. The Azure pricing calculator will let you work out your monthly cost. The final cost depends on the type of storage, access model and the like.

There are different retention and recovery models as well.

For data over 50GB it is done in blocks of 500Gb base cost and a storage cost/per gigabyte. The storage cost has different rates depending if locally redundant storage or geo-redundant is used.

There is also a cool storage and archive tier for long term stuff which I think is cheaper again.

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#2453741 3-Apr-2020 13:13

MSP360 plus Backblaze, as above.

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#2457478 8-Apr-2020 15:08

I went with MSP360/cloudberry & B2

The issue now is the upload speed to B2 is woefully slow . Getting worse .

The first approx 45% went at a OK speed, but now its so slow to upload that its not a viable backup option , at this rate the lockdown will be over by the time its finished
speedtest at Speedtest.net is good : 500Mbs

B2 upload can drop into the 15Kbs range , a shown in the Backup software

is this just a consequence of B2 being such a cheap cost service ?
Any backup services that do have good reliable upload speeds

cheers

edit , just to get a backup complete , Ive had to change the settings to backup only files modified from Feb onwards.
perhaps the sheer number of small files (approx 300,000 docs) was an issue ? But the 1st 45% did go through in less than a day , after that it crawled

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#2457493 8-Apr-2020 15:27

1101:

I went with MSP360/cloudberry & B2..

is this just a consequence of B2 being such a cheap cost service ?
Any backup services that do have good reliable upload speeds

If you want the best performance, Google is probably your best bet. I was hitting the 750GB per day upload limit using rclone with Google Drive.

The type of data and configuration of your backup software make a significant difference to total throughput. If you have deduplication enabled for example, you may find things slow down significantly as the amount of data uploaded increases. Crashplan (with Australian-based servers) could be made to perform quite well if you took the time to manually edit the configuration files to disable compression and deduplication.

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#2457499 8-Apr-2020 15:33

1101:

I went with MSP360/cloudberry & B2

The issue now is the upload speed to B2 is woefully slow . Getting worse .

The first approx 45% went at a OK speed, but now its so slow to upload that its not a viable backup option , at this rate the lockdown will be over by the time its finished
speedtest at Speedtest.net is good : 500Mbs

B2 upload can drop into the 15Kbs range , a shown in the Backup software

is this just a consequence of B2 being such a cheap cost service ?
Any backup services that do have good reliable upload speeds

cheers

Hey I use MSP360 and Google Cloud storage:

Bucket location: Sydney

Upload Speed: 300Mbps max, avg 200Mbps

Storage type: Archival

Storage size: 400GB

Cost per month: About $0.60USD plus it was about $1.50 to do a full upload on 30,000 documents/files

(being archival type storage, you pay higher class A fees)

Availability to your documents: instant

When I used Backblaze, my upload speed was about 50Mbps max (not MB). So I left them.

Hope this helps.

EDIT Singapore is about $0.60 per month, Sydney is $1.00 per month (I have 4 backup across both locations)

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#2457509 8-Apr-2020 15:39

Back Blaze should be plenty fast, try emailing them. They want to have you upload data because you pay for it. AWS S3 Sydney is also a fast option.

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#2457522 8-Apr-2020 16:00

Make sure you understand the costs of getting the data back out...

https://hardware.slashdot.org/story/20/03/19/2358227/nasa-to-launch-247-petabytes-of-data-into-aws-but-forgot-about-egress-costs-before-lift-off

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